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From: Bastien <bzg@altern.org>
To: Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Warning with latest git pull
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:00:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87liaf422j.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sj4nw8d6.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:57:25 +0100")

Hi Achim,

Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de> writes:

> Bastien writes:
>> And time-to-seconds seems absent -- but it seems absent from
>> *any* version of XEmacs I could check (21.4.1, 21.4.9, 21.5.9).
>
> No it's there, in gnus/time-date.elc — maybe your versions are all
> without Gnus?

Yes, my versions come without Gnus.  I directly downloaded them 
from xemacs.org (which is completely outdated by the way.)

>> So yes, I think it's safe to remove this compat function.  Let me know
>> if you find time-to-seconds in <2010 versions of XEmacs.
>
> I don't know which version of XEmacs is still in use, much less together
> with Org (and again which version of Org).  I often see 21.4 versions
> installed in various places, but not how much use they are getting.  The
> 21.5b32 I have installed for rudimentary testing (I still havent managed
> to stop the stack explosion that prevents the test suite from running)
> is relatively recent, so I wouldn't put it as the benchmark of
> compatibility.
>
> XEmacs compatibility in master is anyway broken since your reversion
> 04eb4b08c3

If you see a way of re-reverting this without breaking the various way
to install Org in Emacs, let me know.

> and compatibility with Emacs 22 is on shaky grounds due to
> b63275350f.  

org-condition-case-unless-debug is not in maint or master anymore,
so I guess this problem is gone.  Do you confirm this?

> So I'll ask this question again: which Emacs versions
> should Org 8 officially support?  If we stick with what we have now,
> we'll need to make it compatible again and at least try to get testing
> off the ground for XEmacs, if we drop older Emacsen we will need to
> remove the associated cruft from Org.  It's a few days of work either
> way, but with a possible release date approaching a decision is
> necessary.

"Official support" is useful to officially declare something as a
bug or not.  But I'm not sure it's worth officially declaring that we
officially support this version and not this one.  We are not Org LTS.
We are just a few random hackers trying to do and share their best :)

But you're right, we need to publicly set a goal, at least.

I hereby declare that I want Org to be fully functional for Emacs 23
and older, and I wish Org can be reasonably functional for Emacs <23
and XEmacs.  XEmacs users and Emacs-22 users, please help reporting
comptability bugs, or you'll be ignored till the Dawn of Apocalypse.

:)

-- 
 Bastien

  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-23 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-20 18:18 Warning with latest git pull Thomas S. Dye
2013-02-21 21:12 ` Bastien
2013-02-23  9:22   ` Achim Gratz
2013-02-23 11:21     ` Bastien
2013-02-23 11:57       ` Achim Gratz
2013-02-23 13:00         ` Bastien [this message]
2013-02-23 13:37           ` Achim Gratz
2013-02-25  9:54             ` Bastien
2013-02-23 19:53           ` Achim Gratz
2013-02-24  9:29             ` Bastien
2013-02-24 10:10               ` Achim Gratz
2013-02-25 10:50                 ` Bastien
2013-02-25 17:27                   ` Achim Gratz
2013-02-26 13:53                     ` Bastien

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