From: Christian Moe <mail@christianmoe.com>
To: "Simonyi András" <andras.simonyi@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Org citations, CSL and citeproc-el
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2018 18:02:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h8s0w85a.fsf@christianmoe.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wp0wuyyv.fsf@gmail.com>
This is exciting news, and I look forward to trying it out.
Regarding syntax:
1. A couple of years back, there was an active discussion on this list to
flesh out a native citation syntax for Org. I fell off the discussion,
but I think it resulted in a non-link-based, feature-rich syntax spec,
but not much code to make use of it. Perhaps someone could comment?
2. Not many people liked my proposal: a link-based syntax similar to yours
but also including author and date in the link description. The idea was
to have descriptions that are both (1) human-readable even though the
citekeys are hidden away in the link path and (2) machine-readable to
determine the form of the citation (parenthetical or not, date-only or
not, etc.). I have used one to work with Zotero, and have a simple
parser for it, if you're interested in pursuing something similar.
Yours,
Christian
Simonyi András writes:
> Dear List Members,
>
> a few days ago I've released the first public version of citeproc-el
> (https://github.com/andras-simonyi/citeproc-el), a CSL 1.01 citation
> processor library for Emacs. Since the main motivation of my work was to
> contribute to org-mode's citation rendering I also implemented a "proof
> of concept" add-on to org-ref that uses citeproc-el to render org-ref
> citation links for non-LaTeX (and optionally even LaTeX) export backends
> (see https://github.com/andras-simonyi/citeproc-orgref).
>
> Both packages are in a relatively early stage of their development so
> I'd be grateful to receive any feedback on them. In particular, in
> citeproc-orgref I had to abuse the cite link descriptions to an even
> greater degree than they were by org-ref to accommodate the full CSL
> representation of citations (citations consist of cites and each cite
> can have a prefix, postfix and a locator). The resulting link syntax is
> rather cumbersome so I'd like to ask your opinion about introducing an
> alternative org-mode citation syntax that handles all of these elements.
> One option would be to use something very similar to pandoc's citation
> syntax (which I tried to follow as much as possible in the cite link
> descriptions of citeproc-orgref).
>
> A more general question I'd like to raise how (or whether) you see
> citeproc-el's (and CSL's) potential place in the org-mode ecosystem.
> There are a lot of directions which the further development could take
> (BibLaTeX support, citeproc-YAML bibliographies, CSL editing and CSL
> extensions etc.) and I'd be grateful to receive your input on which ones
> I should focus on.
>
> thanks in advance & best wishes,
>
> András Simonyi
prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-01-05 17:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-01-05 15:06 Org citations, CSL and citeproc-el Simonyi András
2018-01-05 16:52 ` Richard Lawrence
2018-01-05 17:02 ` Tory S. Anderson
2018-01-05 17:53 ` Eric S Fraga
2018-01-05 21:57 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-01-07 11:15 ` András Simonyi
2018-01-10 23:53 ` Richard Lawrence
2018-01-05 17:02 ` Christian Moe [this message]
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