* Suggestion: Add zero-width nbsp to emphasis-regexp-components
@ 2018-06-06 7:54 Chris
2018-06-06 11:49 ` Marcin Borkowski
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From: Chris @ 2018-06-06 7:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
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Hello!
I'm not an experienced mailing list user, but I will try to be brief.
Please excuse my lack of common courtesy.
* Problem
There needs to be a way to coax Org into interpreting something as an
emphasis marker, even if it ordinarily would not look like it (for
example, because it is in the middle of a regular word, when putting
emphasis on only part of a word.)
- Version of Org: 9.1.6
- Version of Emacs: GNU Emacs 25.3.2 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
* Suggested Solution
Include the Unicode zero width no-break space character (U+feff) in
both ~pre~ and ~post~ sections of ~org-emphasis-regexp-components~.
I currently have trouble accessing code.orgmode.org (502 Bad Gateway),
but I imagine the solution to look something like
--- org.el 2018-06-06 09:33:56.602335268 +0200
+++ org-zwnbsp-emphasis.el 2018-06-06 09:39:37.985958647 +0200
@@ -4355,7 +4355,7 @@
;; set this option proved cumbersome. See this message/thread:
;; http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/68681
(defvar org-emphasis-regexp-components
- '("- \t('\"{" "- \t.,:!?;'\")}\\[" " \t\r\n" "." 1)
+ '("- \ufeff\t('\"{" "- \ufeff\t.,:!?;'\")}\\[" " \t\r\n" "." 1)
"Components used to build the regular expression for emphasis.
This is a list with five entries. Terminology: In an emphasis string
like \" *strong word* \", we call the initial space PREMATCH, the final
This has the added tiny benefit that legacy documents that still use
U+feff as a byte order mark may be able to get emphasis also on their
first word... (Not sure if this is a problem, actually, just throwing
it out there.)
* Discussion
- Does this even make sense to begin with, or is it just me?
- Is the zero-width no-break space the most sensible character to do
this with?
I see the zero-width joiner as the alternative – but that appears to
have more legitimate uses inside words, especially in some
non-Western scripts such as Arabic and Indic. I use U+feff mostly
because it is actually sort of a space but not quite.
* Related Reports
I found an email in the archives which touches on the same point[1],
but suggests a more radical change.
[1]: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2017-09/msg00363.html
Regards,
Chris
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* Re: Suggestion: Add zero-width nbsp to emphasis-regexp-components
2018-06-06 7:54 Suggestion: Add zero-width nbsp to emphasis-regexp-components Chris
@ 2018-06-06 11:49 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-06-06 12:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Marcin Borkowski @ 2018-06-06 11:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Chris; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On 2018-06-06, at 09:54, Chris <a@xkqr.org> wrote:
> * Problem
>
> There needs to be a way to coax Org into interpreting something as an
> emphasis marker, even if it ordinarily would not look like it (for
> example, because it is in the middle of a regular word, when putting
> emphasis on only part of a word.)
>
> * Suggested Solution
>
> Include the Unicode zero width no-break space character (U+feff) in
> both ~pre~ and ~post~ sections of ~org-emphasis-regexp-components~.
+1
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl
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* Re: Suggestion: Add zero-width nbsp to emphasis-regexp-components
2018-06-06 11:49 ` Marcin Borkowski
@ 2018-06-06 12:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-06-06 12:55 ` Chris
2018-06-06 20:52 ` Marcin Borkowski
0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2018-06-06 12:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marcin Borkowski; +Cc: Chris, emacs-orgmode
Hello,
Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> writes:
> On 2018-06-06, at 09:54, Chris <a@xkqr.org> wrote:
>
>> * Problem
>>
>> There needs to be a way to coax Org into interpreting something as an
>> emphasis marker, even if it ordinarily would not look like it (for
>> example, because it is in the middle of a regular word, when putting
>> emphasis on only part of a word.)
>>
>> * Suggested Solution
>>
>> Include the Unicode zero width no-break space character (U+feff) in
>> both ~pre~ and ~post~ sections of ~org-emphasis-regexp-components~.
>
> +1
This is already the case.
PRE and POST parts of `org-emphasis-regexp-components' contain
"[:space:]", which matches zero width space.
Regards,
--
Nicolas Goaziou
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* Re: Suggestion: Add zero-width nbsp to emphasis-regexp-components
2018-06-06 12:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2018-06-06 12:55 ` Chris
2018-06-06 20:52 ` Marcin Borkowski
1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Chris @ 2018-06-06 12:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Nicolas Goaziou, Marcin Borkowski; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
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Hey,
Nicolas Goaziou (mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr) 2018-06-06:
> Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> writes:
> This is already the case.
>
> PRE and POST parts of `org-emphasis-regexp-components' contain
> "[:space:]", which matches zero width space.
Odd. I guess my version 9.1.6 is too old to get this change? In that
case, I'm looking forward to upgrade!
Regards,
Chris
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* Re: Suggestion: Add zero-width nbsp to emphasis-regexp-components
2018-06-06 12:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-06-06 12:55 ` Chris
@ 2018-06-06 20:52 ` Marcin Borkowski
1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Marcin Borkowski @ 2018-06-06 20:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: Chris, emacs-orgmode
On 2018-06-06, at 14:07, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote:
> This is already the case.
>
> PRE and POST parts of `org-emphasis-regexp-components' contain
> "[:space:]", which matches zero width space.
Wow, thanks! That means I really need to upgrade my Org.
Best,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl
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