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From: Neil Jerram <neil@ossau.homelinux.net>
To: alain.cochard@unistra.fr
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to move up/down a headline but not the subtree?
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 13:53:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fu0x269j.fsf@ossau.homelinux.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <23358.220.12819.903256@frac.u-strasbg.fr>

Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr writes:

> Neil Jerram writes on Thu  5 Jul 2018 11:46:
>
>  > > What I would like to do is to be able to move a headline with
>  > > everything up to (but not including) its first subheading.
>  > >
>  > > Does anyone know how to do that?  
>  > >
>  > > I am also interested in knowing if there are specific (deep?)
>  > > reasons why this seemingly basic operation, which I see as the
>  > > analogous of org-do-promote/demote and perform very often with
>  > > standard (but tedious) emacs editing commands, is not already
>  > > implemented.
>
>  > My view/guess: because the subheadings are an integral part of the
>  > content of the containing item.
>  > 
>  > Wouldn't you agree?  It seems to me like a fairly fundamental
>  > aspect of the Org model.
>
> Yes, but couldn't you raise the same argument about
> org-promote/demote?

Fair point.

>  > That said, perhaps your use case is one where you've realized that
>  > subheadings don't actually belong to the containing item?  In that
>  > case, what could make more sense is to promote (or kill and yank
>  > elsewhere) all of the wrongly placed subheadings.  You could
>  > promote an individual subheading with M-S-left, or kill and yank it
>  > with C-c C-x C-w and C-c C-x C-y, but I don't know if there's an
>  > easy way to repeat that over all subheadings.
>  > 
>  > Another possible approach: what about demoting just the containing
>  > heading with M-left and then killing/yanking that elsewhere?
>
> My use case is after I have not too carefully written down many ideas.
> Then I start thinking and try to order them in a better way.  All what
> you suggest is very sensible but much longer than the command I am
> looking for.

FWIW, I just experimented.  This seems to work:

  M-right M-right M-right M-right M-right C-c C-x C-w

  move to new destination

  C-c C-x C-y

and is pretty fast.

> Thanks much for you time.
> a.

No problem, it's an interesting question.

    Neil

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-05 12:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-05  9:40 How to move up/down a headline but not the subtree? Alain.Cochard
2018-07-05  9:44 ` Eric S Fraga
2018-07-05 10:38   ` Alain.Cochard
2018-07-05 10:46     ` Eric S Fraga
2018-07-05 12:07       ` Alain.Cochard
2018-07-05 13:39         ` Eric S Fraga
2018-07-05 10:46 ` Neil Jerram
2018-07-05 11:28   ` Alain.Cochard
2018-07-05 12:53     ` Neil Jerram [this message]
2018-07-06 12:45       ` Alain.Cochard
2018-07-10 17:51     ` Bernt Hansen
2018-07-05 10:50 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-07-06 11:59   ` Alain.Cochard
2018-07-07  8:20     ` Nicolas Goaziou

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