From: Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr
To: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to move up/down a headline but not the subtree?
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 13:59:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <23359.22951.446973.150428@frac.u-strasbg.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wouaq7lo.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Hi, and thanks for your message.
Nicolas Goaziou writes on Thu 5 Jul 2018 12:50:
> > I am also interested in knowing if there are specific (deep?)
> > reasons why this seemingly basic operation, which I see as the
> > analogous of org-do-promote/demote and perform very often with
> > standard (but tedious) emacs editing commands, is not already
> > implemented.
> Yes, this is not a "basic" operation: it breaks the structure of
> the document. Org helps you maintain it and organize it, this would
> be going the opposite way.
I do not understand this. When one is demoting/promoting
headlines[fn:2] (and even whole subtrees), it seems to me that one is
implicitly admitting that the structure is wrong. I only see a
quantitative difference (i.e., not a qualitative one) between doing
this and performing want I want to do.
Only now do I realize that it is probably the same logic which is
behind the triggering of the error "Cannot move past superior level or
buffer limit" which occurs when trying to move a subtree. Well, I
certainly don't appreciate these limitations :-) At least in that case
I can not too painfully break the law by promoting+moving+demoting...
> There are ways to do this, and you can even automate them with a
> keyboard macro or a function.
Indeed, I will try to hack something. Ideally, it has to work for
list items as well -- certainly not easy for me. I had hoped someone
would have done it already...
> > [fn:1] I am surprised I can't find it in the manual -- I find it
> > extremely useful.
> Documentation patches are always welcome. The hardest part would be to
> find an appropriate location for this. Maybe Miscellaneous.
I understand patches are welcome, but I don't know how to do that yet.
In that case, is it better that I remain silent?
Regards
a.
[fn:2] Here I am not even talking about cases like going from:
* head
* sub head
text
* sub sub head
to:
* head
* sub head
text
* sub sub head
which is obtained by demoting 'sub head' 3 times. (With the similar
structure with list items, one gets "Cannot outdent an item without
its children".)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-06 12:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-05 9:40 How to move up/down a headline but not the subtree? Alain.Cochard
2018-07-05 9:44 ` Eric S Fraga
2018-07-05 10:38 ` Alain.Cochard
2018-07-05 10:46 ` Eric S Fraga
2018-07-05 12:07 ` Alain.Cochard
2018-07-05 13:39 ` Eric S Fraga
2018-07-05 10:46 ` Neil Jerram
2018-07-05 11:28 ` Alain.Cochard
2018-07-05 12:53 ` Neil Jerram
2018-07-06 12:45 ` Alain.Cochard
2018-07-10 17:51 ` Bernt Hansen
2018-07-05 10:50 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-07-06 11:59 ` Alain.Cochard [this message]
2018-07-07 8:20 ` Nicolas Goaziou
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