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From: Alain.Cochard@unistra.fr
To: Neil Jerram <neil@ossau.homelinux.net>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to move up/down a headline but not the subtree?
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 13:28:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <23358.220.12819.903256@frac.u-strasbg.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lgaq0xke.fsf@ossau.homelinux.net>

Neil Jerram writes on Thu  5 Jul 2018 11:46:

 > > What I would like to do is to be able to move a headline with
 > > everything up to (but not including) its first subheading.
 > >
 > > Does anyone know how to do that?  
 > >
 > > I am also interested in knowing if there are specific (deep?)
 > > reasons why this seemingly basic operation, which I see as the
 > > analogous of org-do-promote/demote and perform very often with
 > > standard (but tedious) emacs editing commands, is not already
 > > implemented.

 > My view/guess: because the subheadings are an integral part of the
 > content of the containing item.
 > 
 > Wouldn't you agree?  It seems to me like a fairly fundamental
 > aspect of the Org model.

Yes, but couldn't you raise the same argument about
org-promote/demote?

 > That said, perhaps your use case is one where you've realized that
 > subheadings don't actually belong to the containing item?  In that
 > case, what could make more sense is to promote (or kill and yank
 > elsewhere) all of the wrongly placed subheadings.  You could
 > promote an individual subheading with M-S-left, or kill and yank it
 > with C-c C-x C-w and C-c C-x C-y, but I don't know if there's an
 > easy way to repeat that over all subheadings.
 > 
 > Another possible approach: what about demoting just the containing
 > heading with M-left and then killing/yanking that elsewhere?

My use case is after I have not too carefully written down many ideas.
Then I start thinking and try to order them in a better way.  All what
you suggest is very sensible but much longer than the command I am
looking for.

Thanks much for you time.
a.

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-05 11:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-05  9:40 How to move up/down a headline but not the subtree? Alain.Cochard
2018-07-05  9:44 ` Eric S Fraga
2018-07-05 10:38   ` Alain.Cochard
2018-07-05 10:46     ` Eric S Fraga
2018-07-05 12:07       ` Alain.Cochard
2018-07-05 13:39         ` Eric S Fraga
2018-07-05 10:46 ` Neil Jerram
2018-07-05 11:28   ` Alain.Cochard [this message]
2018-07-05 12:53     ` Neil Jerram
2018-07-06 12:45       ` Alain.Cochard
2018-07-10 17:51     ` Bernt Hansen
2018-07-05 10:50 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-07-06 11:59   ` Alain.Cochard
2018-07-07  8:20     ` Nicolas Goaziou

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