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From: Jonathan McHugh <indieterminacy@libre.brussels>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Org as a book publisher
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2021 11:46:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87czw93oum.fsf@libre.brussels> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eegrq7c1.fsf@posteo.net>

To build on your analogy, would Tikz be the Graphics Designer?


Juan Manuel Macías <maciaschain@posteo.net> writes:

> Hi Diego,
> Thank you very much for your comments.
> Diego Zamboni <diego@zzamboni.org> writes:
>> I think with Org and a setup like you describe, we are one step closer
>> to separating content (what) from form (how) in a document. This was
>> one of the original goals of LaTeX, but of course in a LaTeX document
>> much of the "how" is still visible through the "what". With Org the
>> separation becomes clearer, by hiding the LaTeX structures (almost)
>> completely, and by allowing to produce multiple formats from the same
>> source document.
> I Totally agree. Leslie Lamport originally created LaTeX (as far as I
> know) as a simplified way of handling TeX for his own documents, since
> the other format of TeX, plainTeX, was quite spartan. Then LaTeX has
> grown incredibly thanks to its extensibility qualities: a small kernel
> (unlike ConTeXt, which is more monolithic) and a ecosystem of macro
> packages. If we make an analogy with the old days of mechanical
> printing, I always say that TeX is the typographer, the one who gets his
> hands dirty with ink, while LaTeX wears a tie and is in the editorial
> design department. TeX works on the merely physical plane, and he is
> only interested in how each element on the page is positioned in
> relation to other elements. Here the minimum indivisible element would
> be the letter, which to TeX's eyes is a box with certain dimensions.
> LaTeX lives more on a semantic plane: for LaTeX there is no lines or
> letters or paragraphs, but rather headings, heading levels, lists,
> quotes, verses, chapters, tables, equations, tables of contents... But,
> as you say, in LaTeX you can still see too many gears. With Org we can
> work on a lighter and cleaner document. And with a single source for
> multiple formats!
> Before moving to Org, I applied this `philosophy' to the markdown/pandoc
> tandem. But since I migrated to Emacs/Org a few years ago, it's almost
> like having superpowers :-D
> Best regards,
> Juan Manuel 

Jonathan McHugh

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-08 10:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-06 19:34 Org as a book publisher Juan Manuel Macías
2021-03-07  9:17 ` M. ‘quintus’ Gülker
2021-03-07 15:57   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-03-07 12:08 ` Diego Zamboni
2021-03-07 13:15   ` Vikas Rawal
2021-03-07 14:35     ` Colin Baxter
2021-03-07 16:03   ` Juan Manuel Macías
2021-03-08 10:46     ` Jonathan McHugh [this message]
2021-03-07 17:46 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-03-07 18:30   ` Juan Manuel Macías
     [not found] ` <87ft16hn62.fsf@emailmessageidheader.nil>
2021-03-07 20:20   ` Juan Manuel Macías

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