* #+HOMEPAGE in metadata - feature request?
@ 2014-03-21 12:37 Marcin Borkowski
2014-03-21 13:07 ` Bastien
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From: Marcin Borkowski @ 2014-03-21 12:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Org-mode mailing list
Hi all (and devs;)),
what about adding #+HOMEPAGE (alongside #+AUTHOR and #+EMAIL) to the
metadata? What are the pros and cons? (One argument against: default
LaTeX classes do not support this. Any other?)
Regards,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Adam Mickiewicz University
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* Re: #+HOMEPAGE in metadata - feature request?
2014-03-21 12:37 #+HOMEPAGE in metadata - feature request? Marcin Borkowski
@ 2014-03-21 13:07 ` Bastien
2014-03-21 14:29 ` Waldemar Quevedo
2014-03-21 20:16 ` Marcin Borkowski
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From: Bastien @ 2014-03-21 13:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marcin Borkowski; +Cc: Org-mode mailing list
Hi Marcin,
Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> writes:
> what about adding #+HOMEPAGE (alongside #+AUTHOR and #+EMAIL) to the
> metadata?
What would it do?
> What are the pros and cons? (One argument against: default
> LaTeX classes do not support this. Any other?)
Not sure what "supporting" means :)
--
Bastien
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* Re: #+HOMEPAGE in metadata - feature request?
2014-03-21 13:07 ` Bastien
@ 2014-03-21 14:29 ` Waldemar Quevedo
2014-03-21 20:16 ` Marcin Borkowski
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From: Waldemar Quevedo @ 2014-03-21 14:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien; +Cc: Org-mode mailing list, Marcin Borkowski
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I think already 'supported' in the sense that something like #+HOMEPAGE:
would count as being an in-buffer setting as described in the
http://orgmode.org/manual/In_002dbuffer-settings.html
Org mode uses special lines in the buffer to define settings on a per-file
basis. These lines start with a '#+' followed by a keyword, a colon, and
then individual words defining a setting.
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> wrote:
> Hi Marcin,
>
> Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> writes:
>
> > what about adding #+HOMEPAGE (alongside #+AUTHOR and #+EMAIL) to the
> > metadata?
>
> What would it do?
>
> > What are the pros and cons? (One argument against: default
> > LaTeX classes do not support this. Any other?)
>
> Not sure what "supporting" means :)
>
> --
> Bastien
>
>
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* Re: #+HOMEPAGE in metadata - feature request?
2014-03-21 13:07 ` Bastien
2014-03-21 14:29 ` Waldemar Quevedo
@ 2014-03-21 20:16 ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-03-21 23:44 ` Bastien
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From: Marcin Borkowski @ 2014-03-21 20:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Dnia 2014-03-21, o godz. 14:07:58
Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> napisał(a):
> Hi Marcin,
>
> Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> writes:
>
> > what about adding #+HOMEPAGE (alongside #+AUTHOR and #+EMAIL) to the
> > metadata?
>
> What would it do?
>
> > What are the pros and cons? (One argument against: default
> > LaTeX classes do not support this. Any other?)
>
> Not sure what "supporting" means :)
OK, I was too vague - sorry.
What I mean is that quite often you want to include some kind of web
page in the titlepage, be it a LaTeX book/textbook/manual, Beamer or
reveal.js presentation etc. The problem is, LaTeX does not have a
syntax for this (it is too old for that, apparently...).
Interestingly, Beamer doesn't have anything for that, either. In
org-reveal, however, the "author" and "email" are just generic <h2>'s
(in fact, I fixed it in my config by adding them a "titlepage" class,
so that they can be different from <h2>'s on regular slides).
So the problem is: it would be (imho) useful to have a "homepage" added
to general metadata, but it is not clear how to translate this to e.g.
LaTeX's (rather ancient) concept of metadata. (Interestingly, some
other classes, e.g. memoir, koma-script and titlepage, also do not seem
to cater for this need. I'm going to ask on TeX.SE if there's any
class/package enabling putting a url on the titlepage...) So while (I
assume) adding a #+HOMEPAGE field/option in Org would be easy, it is
not obvious how to render it for different exporters.
Best,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Adam Mickiewicz University
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* Re: #+HOMEPAGE in metadata - feature request?
2014-03-21 20:16 ` Marcin Borkowski
@ 2014-03-21 23:44 ` Bastien
2014-03-22 1:23 ` Marcin Borkowski
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From: Bastien @ 2014-03-21 23:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marcin Borkowski; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi Marcin,
Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> writes:
> So the problem is: it would be (imho) useful to have a "homepage" added
> to general metadata, but it is not clear how to translate this to e.g.
> LaTeX's (rather ancient) concept of metadata. (Interestingly, some
> other classes, e.g. memoir, koma-script and titlepage, also do not seem
> to cater for this need. I'm going to ask on TeX.SE if there's any
> class/package enabling putting a url on the titlepage...) So while (I
> assume) adding a #+HOMEPAGE field/option in Org would be easy, it is
> not obvious how to render it for different exporters.
Thanks for the explanations, I get it now; but unless I'm really tired
(could be), you only mention backends that do not support a concept of
"homepage"... right?
There is #+HTML_LINK_HOME in the ox-rss.el backend to specify a link
to the homepage (different from the baseurl, since you don't want to
use a baseurl in a RSS feed.) So maybe that's a start.
--
Bastien
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* Re: #+HOMEPAGE in metadata - feature request?
2014-03-21 23:44 ` Bastien
@ 2014-03-22 1:23 ` Marcin Borkowski
2014-03-22 3:26 ` Nick Dokos
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From: Marcin Borkowski @ 2014-03-22 1:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Dnia 2014-03-22, o godz. 00:44:40
Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> napisał(a):
> Hi Marcin,
>
> Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> writes:
>
> > So the problem is: it would be (imho) useful to have a "homepage"
> > added to general metadata, but it is not clear how to translate
> > this to e.g. LaTeX's (rather ancient) concept of metadata.
> > (Interestingly, some other classes, e.g. memoir, koma-script and
> > titlepage, also do not seem to cater for this need. I'm going to
> > ask on TeX.SE if there's any class/package enabling putting a url
> > on the titlepage...) So while (I assume) adding a #+HOMEPAGE
> > field/option in Org would be easy, it is not obvious how to render
> > it for different exporters.
>
> Thanks for the explanations, I get it now; but unless I'm really tired
> (could be), you only mention backends that do not support a concept of
> "homepage"... right?
Right. I did not really use other backends; what drives my suggestion
is a /need/ for a url in the titlepage, not an /existence/ of such
feature in other tools. (It would be hard for me to believe that I'm
the only one needing this, btw...)
> There is #+HTML_LINK_HOME in the ox-rss.el backend to specify a link
> to the homepage (different from the baseurl, since you don't want to
> use a baseurl in a RSS feed.) So maybe that's a start.
I see. I'll look into this tomorrow.
Thanks,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Adam Mickiewicz University
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* Re: #+HOMEPAGE in metadata - feature request?
2014-03-22 1:23 ` Marcin Borkowski
@ 2014-03-22 3:26 ` Nick Dokos
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From: Nick Dokos @ 2014-03-22 3:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> writes:
> Dnia 2014-03-22, o godz. 00:44:40
> Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> napisał(a):
>
>> Hi Marcin,
>>
>> Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> writes:
>>
>> > So the problem is: it would be (imho) useful to have a "homepage"
>> > added to general metadata, but it is not clear how to translate
>> > this to e.g. LaTeX's (rather ancient) concept of metadata.
>> > (Interestingly, some other classes, e.g. memoir, koma-script and
>> > titlepage, also do not seem to cater for this need. I'm going to
>> > ask on TeX.SE if there's any class/package enabling putting a url
>> > on the titlepage...) So while (I assume) adding a #+HOMEPAGE
>> > field/option in Org would be easy, it is not obvious how to render
>> > it for different exporters.
>>
>> Thanks for the explanations, I get it now; but unless I'm really tired
>> (could be), you only mention backends that do not support a concept of
>> "homepage"... right?
>
> Right. I did not really use other backends; what drives my suggestion
> is a /need/ for a url in the titlepage, not an /existence/ of such
> feature in other tools. (It would be hard for me to believe that I'm
> the only one needing this, btw...)
>
For latex, the ams classes (amsart, etc) provide a \urladdr macro.
I imagine something similar could be easily added to the standard
classes. Or you can cheat:
#+AUTHOR:
#+LATEX_HEADER: \author{A.U.Thor\thanks{http://www.foo.org}
--
Nick
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