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From: Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com>
To: Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, henry atting <nsmp_01@online.de>
Subject: Re: tea-time?
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:24:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8763drn567.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20524da70907162056h22637e0byee429770336b73de@mail.gmail.com> (Samuel Wales's message of "Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:56:06 -0700")

Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:

> It is said that tea-time.el is integrated into org, but I have not
> found it in the manual or in customize yet, at least not   in a direct
> way.

AFAIK what was implemented so far is a way to display the clocking time
against the effort estimate.

> My understanding is that tea-time is something that tells you X, Y
> minutes from now.

If you have an effort estimate, this is what it does in the modeline:
it tells you that your running clock is 9 minute and that the effort is
one hour.

> If it was integrated into org, that suggests to me that I can tell org
> that I have to do something in one hour from now, and org will somehow
> notify me.

With an effort estimate already in place, this is what it does.  And
when you reach the amount of estimated effort, you get a warning.

> It also suggests the possibility that the modeline will count down
> just as it currently counts up in the clock.
>
> But aside from a series of steps, such as create a task, set a time,
> run org-agenda-to-appt, or some type of steps involving effort
> estimates that I have not investigated yet, I don't know how to tell
> org to tell me X in Y minutes.

The steps are these:

- create a task
- add an effort estimate
- clock in

Let me know if this needs to be refined.

> Is there a way to tell org, "say X in Y minutes"?  If not, what are
> the relative merits of appt-add and tea-time and the series of steps?

What I find not practical in the current set up is that you have to set
an effort estimate *manually* in order to get something like tea-time
provides.  I added a new hook on the repo: org-clock-in-prepare-hook
which makes it easy to modify the task effort property.  

Examples:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
;; Using this hook will set a default effort estimate of 1:00 
;; to each task you clock in and has no effort property.
(add-hook 'org-clock-in-prepare-hook 
	  'my-org-mode-add-default-effort)

(defvar org-clock-default-effort "1:00")

(defun my-org-mode-add-default-effort ()
  "Add a default effort estimation."
  (unless (org-entry-get (point) "Effort")
    (org-set-property "Effort" org-clock-default-effort)))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
;;; Using this hook will let the user 
(add-hook 'org-clock-in-prepare-hook 
	  'my-org-mode-ask-effort)

(defun my-org-mode-ask-effort ()
  "Ask for an effort estimate when clocking in."
  (unless (org-entry-get (point) "Effort")
    (let ((effort 
	   (completing-read 
	    "Effort: "
	    (org-entry-get-multivalued-property (point) "Effort"))))
      (unless (equal effort "")
	(org-set-property "Effort" effort)))))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

I have pushed this example to org-hacks.org on Worg.

HTH,

-- 
 Bastien

  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-17  7:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-11 11:58 tea-time? henry atting
2009-06-11 12:34 ` tea-time? Sebastian Rose
2009-07-17  3:56   ` tea-time? Samuel Wales
2009-07-17  7:24     ` Bastien [this message]
2009-07-25 19:49       ` tea-time? Samuel Wales
2009-07-25 22:20         ` tea-time? Bastien
2009-07-26  0:14           ` tea-time? Samuel Wales
2009-07-26 19:04             ` tea-time? Bastien
2009-07-29 17:30               ` tea-time? Samuel Wales
2009-07-29 17:31                 ` tea-time? Samuel Wales
2009-07-29 17:41                 ` tea-time? Bastien
2009-07-29 17:54                   ` tea-time? Samuel Wales
2009-07-29 18:41                     ` tea-time? Bastien
2009-07-29 19:06                 ` tea-time? Bastien
2009-07-29 21:45                   ` tea-time? Samuel Wales
2009-07-29 22:29                     ` tea-time? Nick Dokos
2009-07-30  5:18                       ` tea-time? Bastien
2009-07-30 10:56                       ` tea-time? Eric S Fraga
2009-07-30 12:34                         ` tea-time? Richard Riley
2009-07-30  5:48                     ` tea-time? Bastien
     [not found]                     ` <samologist@gmail.com>
2012-08-28  1:11                       ` How to make kill-sexp work as in the rest of Emacs? Samuel Wales
2012-08-28  3:43                         ` Nick Dokos
2012-08-28  4:08                           ` Samuel Wales
2012-08-28  5:30                             ` Nick Dokos
2012-08-28  5:33                               ` Samuel Wales
2012-08-30  5:04                               ` Bastien
2009-07-17 12:46     ` tea-time? Bernt Hansen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-11-11 22:05 HTML export and blogging to blogger.com Samuel Wales
2010-11-11 22:50 ` Nick Dokos
2010-11-11 23:06   ` Samuel Wales
2010-11-12  3:45     ` Nick Dokos
2010-11-11 23:07 ` John Hendy
2010-11-11 23:18   ` Samuel Wales
2010-11-11 23:40     ` John Hendy
2010-11-12  2:25       ` Samuel Wales
2010-11-12 10:47         ` Eric S Fraga
2010-11-12 19:32           ` Samuel Wales
2010-11-14  1:25 ` Samuel Wales
2010-11-14  2:26   ` John Hendy
2010-11-14  2:54     ` Samuel Wales
2010-11-16  3:01   ` Samuel Wales
2010-11-16  9:50     ` Giovanni Ridolfi
2010-11-16 18:26       ` Samuel Wales
2010-11-16 23:17         ` Samuel Wales
2010-11-16 23:32           ` John Hendy
2010-11-17  0:13             ` Samuel Wales
2010-11-17  0:17               ` Samuel Wales
2010-11-17  4:34                 ` John Hendy
2010-11-17  4:45                   ` John Hendy
2010-11-17  9:09                     ` Eric S Fraga
2010-11-17 16:36                       ` John Hendy
2010-11-17 16:46                         ` Eric S Fraga
2010-11-24  1:59                       ` Samuel Wales
2010-11-24  9:09                         ` Eric S Fraga
2010-11-24  2:03                   ` Samuel Wales
2010-11-17 11:47         ` Christian Moe
2010-11-17 12:28           ` Add a hook with #+BIND? Christian Moe
2010-11-18  5:44           ` Re: HTML export and blogging to blogger.com John Hendy
2010-11-17  3:46   ` Nick Dokos
2010-11-17  4:18     ` John Hendy
2010-11-17  5:17       ` Nick Dokos
2010-11-17  5:52     ` Samuel Wales
2010-11-17  6:09       ` Nick Dokos
2010-11-24  2:00         ` Samuel Wales
2010-11-17 10:17       ` Tim Burt
2010-11-24  1:58         ` Samuel Wales
2012-05-29 17:24 Annoying behavior of RET after a timestamp Nick Dokos
2012-05-29 17:46 ` Nick Dokos
2012-05-29 17:54   ` Samuel Wales
2012-05-29 18:43     ` Nick Dokos
2012-05-29 18:57       ` Samuel Wales
2012-05-29 19:04         ` suvayu ali
2012-05-29 19:15         ` Nick Dokos
2012-05-29 19:21           ` Nick Dokos
2012-05-29 19:26             ` Nick Dokos
2012-05-29 20:05               ` Samuel Wales
2012-05-31 12:43               ` Matt Lundin
2012-06-01 13:57                 ` Bastien
2012-06-01 13:55 ` Bastien
2012-06-01 15:41   ` Nick Dokos

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