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From: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
To: Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: oc-biblatex and biblatex substyles
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 10:54:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8735n0ss2i.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mtlourwg.fsf@gmx.us> (rasmus@gmx.us's message of "Sun, 28 Nov 2021 18:11:27 +0100")


Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:

> I wonder if oc-biblatex should support loading biblatex-derived libraries,
> e.g. biblatex-chicago?
> There’s a quite a few of these libraries:
>    $ tlmgr search --global "biblatex-" | wc -l
>      66
> (This is somewhat overestimating the true number of “biblatex-*”
> packages).
> These libraries are typically nie because they are (i) easier to configure
> than biblatex for a specific style and (ii) actually support some
> \usepackage keywords that can’t be used by biblatex (e.g. ibidtracker for
> biblatex-chicago).
> Thus, it might be able to at least support
>     #+cite_export: biblatex-$SUBSTYLE
> E.g. #+cite_export: biblatex-chicago.  But oc-biblatex would likely also
> have to be able to pickup biblatex-* packages in
> org-latex-(default-)packages-alist...
> So maybe it’s a can of worms?

I don't know enough about BibLaTeX to answer that question. What does it
entail to "support loading biblatex-derived libraries" in practical
terms? I assume \usepackage{biblatex-chicago} instead of
\usepackage{biblatex}, with a different set of options and commands,

It may be possible to define a new variable, e.g.,
‘org-cite-biblatex-package‘, defaulting to ("bilatex" . nil). It would
contain entries like (SUBSTYLE . OPTIONS) and would be used to build the
proper \usepackage invocation.

I also plan to allow custom commands in "oc-biblatex.el", so it could
also handle commands introduced by the substyles.

How we would select substyle from the document is not clear, tho.

Another possibility it to write, e.g., "oc-biblatex-chicago.el" and
define a new ‘biblatex-chicago’ export processor, re-using most
functions from "oc-biblatex.el". It would probably only be necessary to
re-define ‘org-cite-biblatex-export-citation’ and


Nicolas Goaziou

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-10  9:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-28 17:11 oc-biblatex and biblatex substyles Rasmus
2021-12-10  9:54 ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2021-12-10 16:14   ` Thomas S. Dye
2021-12-12 15:25     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-12-12 18:37       ` Thomas S. Dye
2021-12-12 18:46         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-12-12 19:15           ` Thomas S. Dye
2021-12-12 20:31             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-12-12 21:40               ` Thomas S. Dye
2022-01-06 21:26   ` Rasmus
2022-01-06 21:45   ` Rasmus
2022-01-06 21:46     ` Rasmus
2022-01-06 22:17     ` Thomas S. Dye

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