* [Feature Request] HEADLINE special property @ 2014-09-22 13:41 Brett Witty 2014-09-22 15:20 ` Nicolas Goaziou 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Brett Witty @ 2014-09-22 13:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Org mailing list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 523 bytes --] (Following Thorsten's helpful response: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/90768) I'd like an extra special property of HEADLINE which is ITEM without all the other metadata. Specifically the output of: (org-get-heading t t) I find the ITEM special property too noisy inside of a table, and I have all the metadata without the actual headline by itself. I'm unsure if the special properties "HEADING" and "ITEM" are confusing as being slightly different concepts, so a better name might be good. Brett Witty [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 705 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [Feature Request] HEADLINE special property 2014-09-22 13:41 [Feature Request] HEADLINE special property Brett Witty @ 2014-09-22 15:20 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2014-10-11 13:24 ` Bastien 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2014-09-22 15:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Brett Witty; +Cc: Org mailing list Hello, Brett Witty <brettwitty@brettwitty.net> writes: > (Following Thorsten's helpful response: > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/90768) > > I'd like an extra special property of HEADLINE which is ITEM without all > the other metadata. Specifically the output of: > > (org-get-heading t t) > > I find the ITEM special property too noisy inside of a table, and I have > all the metadata without the actual headline by itself. > > I'm unsure if the special properties "HEADING" and "ITEM" are confusing as > being slightly different concepts, so a better name might be good. I think "ITEM" is expected return the headline without all the meta data. If no one objects, I'll change it so in master. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [Feature Request] HEADLINE special property 2014-09-22 15:20 ` Nicolas Goaziou @ 2014-10-11 13:24 ` Bastien 2014-10-20 13:16 ` Nicolas Goaziou 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Bastien @ 2014-10-11 13:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: Brett Witty, Org mailing list Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes: > I think "ITEM" is expected return the headline without all the meta > data. If no one objects, I'll change it so in master. Yes, thanks for this, -- Bastien ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [Feature Request] HEADLINE special property 2014-10-11 13:24 ` Bastien @ 2014-10-20 13:16 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2014-10-20 22:20 ` Brett Witty 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2014-10-20 13:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bastien; +Cc: Brett Witty, Org mailing list Hello, Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes: > Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes: > >> I think "ITEM" is expected return the headline without all the meta >> data. If no one objects, I'll change it so in master. > > Yes, thanks for this, Here is the current state: ITEM property includes stars, TODO keyword, priority, headline and tags, but only if they do not have already a dedicated column. So, in the following example #+COLUMNS: %25ITEM %TODO %PRIORITY %TAGS ITEM will contain only stars and headline. This cannot properly work in, e.g., a clock table, which doesn't know about columns. We can get rid of this "smart" behaviour and remove TODO keyword, priority and tags in all cases. However the situation is not so simple for the stars, since there is no LEVEL special property. IOW, if we remove the stars, it is actually not possible anymore to know the level of the headline. If we want to remove them, I suggest adding a new LEVEL special property. Note that in this case, user defined properties cannot be labelled "level" anymore. Another option, as the OP suggested, is to create a new special property, e.g., HEADLINE, which will contain only the title. WDYT? Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [Feature Request] HEADLINE special property 2014-10-20 13:16 ` Nicolas Goaziou @ 2014-10-20 22:20 ` Brett Witty 2014-11-10 15:54 ` Nicolas Goaziou 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Brett Witty @ 2014-10-20 22:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bastien, Brett Witty, Org mailing list [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1552 bytes --] Seems like a good solution. Although how about HEADLINE_LEVEL, OUTLINE_LEVEL or some abbreviation to make it more unlikely to clash with user defined properties? BrettW On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote: > Hello, > > Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes: > > > Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes: > > > >> I think "ITEM" is expected return the headline without all the meta > >> data. If no one objects, I'll change it so in master. > > > > Yes, thanks for this, > > Here is the current state: > > ITEM property includes stars, TODO keyword, priority, headline and tags, > but only if they do not have already a dedicated column. So, in the > following example > > #+COLUMNS: %25ITEM %TODO %PRIORITY %TAGS > > ITEM will contain only stars and headline. This cannot properly work in, > e.g., a clock table, which doesn't know about columns. > > We can get rid of this "smart" behaviour and remove TODO keyword, > priority and tags in all cases. > > However the situation is not so simple for the stars, since there is no > LEVEL special property. IOW, if we remove the stars, it is actually not > possible anymore to know the level of the headline. > > If we want to remove them, I suggest adding a new LEVEL special > property. Note that in this case, user defined properties cannot be > labelled "level" anymore. Another option, as the OP suggested, is to > create a new special property, e.g., HEADLINE, which will contain only > the title. > > WDYT? > > > Regards, > > -- > Nicolas Goaziou > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2249 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [Feature Request] HEADLINE special property 2014-10-20 22:20 ` Brett Witty @ 2014-11-10 15:54 ` Nicolas Goaziou 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2014-11-10 15:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Brett Witty; +Cc: Bastien, Org mailing list Brett Witty <brettwitty@brettwitty.net> writes: > Seems like a good solution. Although how about HEADLINE_LEVEL, > OUTLINE_LEVEL or some abbreviation to make it more unlikely to clash with > user defined properties? I stripped all meta-data from "ITEM" special property in master. However, I kept the stars as they inform about relationship between headlines in a columnview table. Please report if you encounter any bug. Regards, ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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