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* Testing: org-export-e-html (was: Drupal syntax on html-export)
@ 2012-05-30  6:27 William Crandall
  2012-05-30  7:08 ` Testing: org-export-e-html Sebastien Vauban
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: William Crandall @ 2012-05-30  6:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jambunathan K, Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

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Hello Nicolas and Jambunathan,

Thanks again for your responses to my questions.
I report some success and some "in process."

1. Stylesheet attachment (with #+STYLE:) works fine now.

2. Your special string example (replace-regexp-in-string),
Nicolas, as well as the better entity solution (\trade),
both work splendidly.

I'm looking now at three issues. Please let me know
what I can/should change.

Thanks again for this new export engine!

Cheers,

-BC

Testing: "M-x org-export-dispatch h"
Org-mode: 7.8.11 (release_7.8.11-18-g244331)
Emacs: 24.1.50.1
Windows 7




--------------------------------------------------

1. UTF-8 XML Encoding

In my init.el:

   (setq org-e-html-coding-system 'utf-8)

But first line of test.html:

  <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>

In test.org:

   org-e-html-coding-system is a variable defined in `org-e-html.el'.
   Its value is utf-8
   Original value was nil

   Documentation:
   Coding system for HTML export.
   Use `org-export-coding-system' as the default value.

And:

   buffer-file-coding-system is a variable defined in `C source code'.
   Its value is utf-8-dos
   Local in buffer 6-test.org; global value is utf-8-dos

--------------------------------------------------

2a. Internal HTML links (#)

Neither links nor destinations make it into the html.

This:

    "an internal section link [[#directors][Directors]]."

becomes:

   "an internal section link: <i>Directors</i>.

Was expecting (without italics):

   ""an internal section link: <a href="#directors">Directors</a>"

--------------------

2b. This target:

   # <<directors>>
   * A First Section

becomes:

   <div id="outline-container-1" class="outline-2">
   <h2 id="sec-1">A First Section</h2>
   <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-1">

Was expecting:

   <div id="outline-container-1" class="outline-2">
   <h2 id="sec-1"><a name="directors" id="directors"></a>A First
Section</h2>
   <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-1">

--------------------------------------------------

3. Image and file prefixes are as they were.

This (image):

   [[/sites/a.png]]

becomes:

   <img src="g:/sites/a.png"/>

And this (file):

   [[/sites/my-file][My link]]

becomes:

   <a href="file://g:/sites/my-file">My link</a>


I'd love an option to "change it not" for both, so that
neither "g:" nor "file://g:" is added to "/...".

I could strip them out, after exporting, but I think
this is an option that others would also value.


(External links, to an "http://...", work fine.)

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On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:00 AM, William Crandall <bc3141592@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hello Nicolas and Jambunathan,
>
> Many thanks, to you both, for such quick and detailed responses!
>
>

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• * Re: Testing: org-export-e-html
    2012-05-30  6:27 Testing: org-export-e-html (was: Drupal syntax on html-export) William Crandall
  @ 2012-05-30  7:08 ` Sebastien Vauban
    2012-05-30 11:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
    2012-05-31  6:42 ` Jambunathan K
    2 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
  From: Sebastien Vauban @ 2012-05-30  7:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
    To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ
  
  Hi William,
  
  William Crandall wrote:
  > 3. Image and file prefixes are as they were.
  >
  > This (image):
  >
  >    [[/sites/a.png]]
  >
  > becomes:
  >
  >    <img src="g:/sites/a.png"/>
  >
  > And this (file):
  >
  >    [[/sites/my-file][My link]]
  >
  > becomes:
  >
  >    <a href="file://g:/sites/my-file">My link</a>
  >
  >
  > I'd love an option to "change it not" for both, so that
  > neither "g:" nor "file://g:" is added to "/...".
  >
  > I could strip them out, after exporting, but I think
  > this is an option that others would also value.
  >
  >
  > (External links, to an "http://...", work fine.)
  
  A quick note on this one:
  
  I think adding "." does work, so use "./sites/a.png" instead.
  
  Dunno if that suits your need, though.
  
  Best regards,
    Seb
  
  -- 
  Sebastien Vauban
  
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• * Re: Testing: org-export-e-html
    2012-05-30  6:27 Testing: org-export-e-html (was: Drupal syntax on html-export) William Crandall
    2012-05-30  7:08 ` Testing: org-export-e-html Sebastien Vauban
  @ 2012-05-30 11:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
    2012-05-30 23:50   ` William Crandall
    2012-05-30 23:53   ` William Crandall
    2012-05-31  6:42 ` Jambunathan K
    2 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread
  From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2012-05-30 11:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
    To: William Crandall; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Jambunathan K
  
  Hello,
  
  William Crandall <bc3141592@gmail.com> writes:
  
  > 2a. Internal HTML links (#)
  >
  >
  > Neither links nor destinations make it into the html.
  >
  > This:
  >
  >     "an internal section link [[#directors][Directors]]."
  >
  > becomes:
  >
  >    "an internal section link: <i>Directors</i>.
  >
  > Was expecting (without italics):
  >
  >    ""an internal section link: <a href="#directors">Directors</a>"
  
  I think your mixing up syntax here: "#" stands for custom-id links.
  
  In other words, [[#directors][Directors]] is a link pointing to an
  headline whose CUSTOM-ID property is "directors". If there's no such
  headline, it will return Directors italicized.
  
  If you're targeting an headline, provide it an appropriate CUSTOM-ID.
  Otherwise, just use a target.
  
  
  > 2b. This target:
  >
  >    # <<directors>>
  >    * A First Section
  >
  > becomes:
  >
  >    <div id="outline-container-1" class="outline-2">
  >    <h2 id="sec-1">A First Section</h2>
  >    <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-1">
  >
  > Was expecting:
  >
  >    <div id="outline-container-1" class="outline-2">
  >    <h2 id="sec-1"><a name="directors" id="directors"></a>A First
  > Section</h2>
  >    <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-1">
  
  "# <<target>>" syntax has been dropped since every target is now
  "invisible".
  
  Use :
  
  * <<directors>> A First Section
  
  instead.
  
  
  Regards,
  
  -- 
  Nicolas Goaziou
  
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• • * Re: Testing: org-export-e-html
      2012-05-30 11:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
    @ 2012-05-30 23:50   ` William Crandall
      2012-05-30 23:53   ` William Crandall
      1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
    From: William Crandall @ 2012-05-30 23:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
      To: emacs-orgmode
    
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    Thanks Sebastien!
    
    Sometimes its the smallest things; in this case >.<
    A single point, and figures work in my setup.
    
    That is: [[./sites/a.png]]
    
    becomes: <img src="./sites/a.png"  alt="a.png"/>
    
    ------------------------------
    
    Alas, FILES do not now behave the same way.
    
    Using M-x org-export-dispatch h
    this:
        [[./sites/my-file][My link]]
    
    becomes:
        <a href="file://./sites/my-file">My link</a>
    
    
    So, org-export-dispatch (on Windows), adds
    "file://"   if the first char is ".", and it adds
    "file://g:" if the first char is "/".
    
    (With "g:" the root drive letter.)
    
    Still hoping for a switch that will add [nothing].
    
    +1 for solving the img challenge!
    
    -BC
    
    
    
    > Hi William,
    >
    > William Crandall wrote:
    > >* 3. Image and file prefixes are as they were.*
    > >
    > >* This (image):*
    > >
    > >*    [[/sites/a.png]]*
    > >
    > >* becomes:*
    > >
    > >*    <img src="g:/sites/a.png"/>*
    > >
    > >* And this (file):*
    > >
    > >*    [[/sites/my-file][My link]]*
    > >
    > >* becomes:*
    > >
    > >*    <a href="file://g:/sites/my-file">My link</a>*
    > >
    > >
    > >* I'd love an option to "change it not" for both, so that*
    > >* neither "g:" nor "file://g:" is added to "/...".*
    > >
    > >* I could strip them out, after exporting, but I think*
    > >* this is an option that others would also value.*
    > >
    > >
    > >* (External links, to an "http://...";, work fine.)*
    >
    > A quick note on this one:
    >
    > I think adding "." does work, so use "./sites/a.png" instead.
    >
    > Dunno if that suits your need, though.
    >
    > Best regards,
    >   Seb
    >
    > --
    > Sebastien Vauban
    >
    >
    
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  • * Re: Testing: org-export-e-html
      2012-05-30 11:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
      2012-05-30 23:50   ` William Crandall
    @ 2012-05-30 23:53   ` William Crandall
      2012-05-31  4:28     ` Jambunathan K
      2012-05-31 12:08     ` Nicolas Goaziou
      1 sibling, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread
    From: William Crandall @ 2012-05-30 23:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
      To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Jambunathan K
    
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    Hello Nicolas,
    
    Thanks for clarifying link syntax.
    I think I'm more than half way there!
    
    I can now create targets/destinations:
    
    This:
        ** <<crandall>>BC Crandall
    
    becomes:
        <h3 id="sec-1-1"><a id="crandall" name="crandall"/>BC Crandall</h3>
    
    As expected.
    
    
    But creating a link TO that "id" target eludes me.
    
    This:
        [[#crandall][BC Crandall]]
    
    becomes:
        <i>BC Crandall</i>
    
    Was expecting:
        <a href="#crandall">BC Crandall</a>
    
    
    I was expecting that link (not italicized) because
    of the <a id="crandall"/> in the <h3>, in that file.
    
    Sorry if I'm being obtuse here!
    
    Thanks again for your help,
    
    -BC
    
    
    > Hello,
    >
    > William Crandall <address@hidden> writes:
    >
    > >* 2a. Internal HTML links (#)*
    > >
    > >
    > >* Neither links nor destinations make it into the html.*
    > >
    > >* This:*
    > >
    > >*     "an internal section link [[#directors][Directors]]."*
    > >
    > >* becomes:*
    > >
    > >*    "an internal section link: <i>Directors</i>.*
    > >
    > >* Was expecting (without italics):*
    > >
    > >*    ""an internal section link: <a href="#directors">Directors</a>"*
    >
    > I think your mixing up syntax here: "#" stands for custom-id links.
    >
    > In other words, [[#directors][Directors]] is a link pointing to an
    > headline whose CUSTOM-ID property is "directors". If there's no such
    > headline, it will return Directors italicized.
    >
    > If you're targeting an headline, provide it an appropriate CUSTOM-ID.
    > Otherwise, just use a target.
    >
    >
    > >* 2b. This target:*
    > >
    > >*    # <<directors>>*
    > >*    * A First Section*
    > >
    > >* becomes:*
    > >
    > >*    <div id="outline-container-1" class="outline-2">*
    > >*    <h2 id="sec-1">A First Section</h2>*
    > >*    <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-1">*
    > >
    > >* Was expecting:*
    > >
    > >*    <div id="outline-container-1" class="outline-2">*
    > >*    <h2 id="sec-1"><a name="directors" id="directors"></a>A First*
    > >* Section</h2>*
    > >*    <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-1">*
    >
    > "# <<target>>" syntax has been dropped since every target is now
    > "invisible".
    >
    > Use :
    >
    > * <<directors>> A First Section
    >
    > instead.
    >
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > --
    > Nicolas Goaziou
    >
    >
    
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  • • * Re: Testing: org-export-e-html
        2012-05-30 23:53   ` William Crandall
      @ 2012-05-31  4:28     ` Jambunathan K
        2012-05-31 12:08     ` Nicolas Goaziou
        1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
      From: Jambunathan K @ 2012-05-31  4:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
        To: William Crandall; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Nicolas Goaziou
      
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      For some reasons, the link type becomes "custom-id".  See the attached
      files - links.org and links.el.
      
      
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      [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --]
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      [-- Type: text/x-org, Size: 196 bytes --]
      
      * <<aaaa>> BC Crandall
        :PROPERTIES:
        :CUSTOM_ID: bbbb
        :END:
      
      * Link1
      
      #+target: cccc
      
      [[#aaaa][Some description]]
      
      
      * Link2
      
      [[#bbbb][Some description]]
      
      * Link3
      
      [[#cccc][Some description]]
      
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      William Crandall <bc3141592@gmail.com> writes:
      > Hello Nicolas,
      >
      > Thanks for clarifying link syntax.
      > I think I'm more than half way there!
      >
      > I can now create targets/destinations:
      >
      > This:
      >     ** <<crandall>>BC Crandall
      >
      > becomes:
      >     <h3 id="sec-1-1"><a id="crandall" name="crandall"/>BC Crandall</
      > h3>
      >
      > As expected.
      >
      >
      > But creating a link TO that "id" target eludes me.
      >
      > This:
      >     [[#crandall][BC Crandall]]
      >
      > becomes:
      >     <i>BC Crandall</i>
      >
      > Was expecting:
      >     <a href="#crandall">BC Crandall</a>
      >
      >
      > I was expecting that link (not italicized) because
      > of the <a id="crandall"/> in the <h3>, in that file.
      >
      > Sorry if I'm being obtuse here!
      >
      > Thanks again for your help,
      >
      > -BC
      >  
      >
      >     Hello,
      >     
      >     William Crandall <address@hidden> writes:
      >     
      >     > 2a. Internal HTML links (#)
      >     >
      >     >
      >     > Neither links nor destinations make it into the html.
      >     >
      >     > This:
      >     >
      >     >     "an internal section link [[#directors][Directors]]."
      >     >
      >     > becomes:
      >     >
      >     >    "an internal section link: <i>Directors</i>.
      >     >
      >     > Was expecting (without italics):
      >     >
      >     >    ""an internal section link: <a href="#directors">Directors</a>"
      >     
      >     I think your mixing up syntax here: "#" stands for custom-id links.
      >     
      >     In other words, [[#directors][Directors]] is a link pointing to an
      >     headline whose CUSTOM-ID property is "directors". If there's no such
      >     headline, it will return Directors italicized.
      >     
      >     If you're targeting an headline, provide it an appropriate CUSTOM-ID.
      >     Otherwise, just use a target.
      >     
      >     
      >     > 2b. This target:
      >     >
      >     >    # <<directors>>
      >     >    * A First Section
      >     >
      >     > becomes:
      >     >
      >     >    <div id="outline-container-1" class="outline-2">
      >     >    <h2 id="sec-1">A First Section</h2>
      >     >    <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-1">
      >     >
      >     > Was expecting:
      >     >
      >     >    <div id="outline-container-1" class="outline-2">
      >     >    <h2 id="sec-1"><a name="directors" id="directors"></a>A First
      >     > Section</h2>
      >     >    <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-1">
      >     
      >     "# <<target>>" syntax has been dropped since every target is now
      >     "invisible".
      >     
      >     Use :
      >     
      >     * <<directors>> A First Section
      >     
      >     instead.
      >     
      >     
      >     Regards,
      >     
      >     -- 
      >     Nicolas Goaziou
      >     
      
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    • * Re: Testing: org-export-e-html
        2012-05-30 23:53   ` William Crandall
        2012-05-31  4:28     ` Jambunathan K
      @ 2012-05-31 12:08     ` Nicolas Goaziou
        2012-06-01  3:56       ` William Crandall
        1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
      From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2012-05-31 12:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
        To: William Crandall; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Jambunathan K
      
      Hello,
      
      William Crandall <bc3141592@gmail.com> writes:
      
      > Thanks for clarifying link syntax.
      > I think I'm more than half way there!
      >
      > I can now create targets/destinations:
      >
      > This:
      >     ** <<crandall>>BC Crandall
      >
      > becomes:
      >     <h3 id="sec-1-1"><a id="crandall" name="crandall"/>BC Crandall</h3>
      >
      > As expected.
      >
      >
      > But creating a link TO that "id" target eludes me.
      >
      > This:
      >     [[#crandall][BC Crandall]]
      >
      > becomes:
      >     <i>BC Crandall</i>
      >
      > Was expecting:
      >     <a href="#crandall">BC Crandall</a>
      
      Again, "#crandall" syntax should be used to target an headline with
      "crandall" as value for its custom-id property. See section 4.2 in the
      manual.
      
      --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
      * BC Crandall
        :PROPERTIES:
        :CUSTOM_ID: crandall
        :END:
      
        [[#crandall][Description]]
      --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
      
      
      If you are linking to a target, simply call its name.
      
      --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
      * <<crandall>>BC Crandall
      
        A [[crandall][link]] to headline [[crandall]]
      --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
      
      Notice the difference between the link with or without a description.
      
      
      Regards,
      
      -- 
      Nicolas Goaziou
      
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    • • * Re: Testing: org-export-e-html
          2012-05-31 12:08     ` Nicolas Goaziou
        @ 2012-06-01  3:56       ` William Crandall
          2012-06-01  6:42         ` William Crandall
          2012-06-01 16:38         ` Nicolas Goaziou
          0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread
        From: William Crandall @ 2012-06-01  3:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
          To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Jambunathan K
        
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        Hello Nicolas,
        
        To wrap my neurons around linking, I made a small test batch.
        There appear to be several difference between the "old" HTML
        export engine and the current version of the "new".
        
        Testing org-to-HTML export:
           old: C-c C-e h      (org-export, in org-exp.el)
           new: M-x org-export-dispatch h  (in org-export.el)
        
        Four input permutations:
        
        1. [[directors]]
        2. [[#directors]]
        3. [[directors][Directors]]
        4. [[#directors][Directors]]
        
        
        As I see it (do let me know what I'm getting wrong!),
        the old version gets all links right.
        
        (But "old" makes one error(?) see next section.)
        
        1. [[directors]]
           old: <a href="#sec-1">directors</a>
           new: <i>directors</i>
        
        2. [[#directors]]
           old: <a href="#directors">#directors</a>
           new: <a href="#sec-1">Directors</a>
        
        3. [[directors][Directors]]
           old: <a href="#sec-1">Directors</a>
           new: <i>Directors</i>
        
        4. [[#directors][Directors]]
           old: <a href="#directors">Directors</a>
           new: <a href="#sec-1">Directors</a>
        
        
        In no case is the output the same!
        
        #4 would be most useful for my purposes, as it allows
        identifying target links precisely.
        
        --------------------------------------------------
        
        Turning to the output for targets, the new version
        does not close the <a> tag (as the old version does).
        Other than that, "new" seems fine.
        
        ("Old" generates a <pre> section from the PROPERTIES drawer,
        whether it is open or closed, with your encoding. Not my focus,
        but is this an "old" bug?)
        
        Org-mode input:
           * Directors
             :PROPERTIES:
             :CUSTOM_ID: directors
             :END:
        
        HTML output:
        old:
           <div id="outline-container-directors" class="outline-2">
           <h2 id="directors"><a name="sec-1" id="sec-1"></a>Directors</h2>
           <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-directors">
        
           <pre class="example">
           PROPERTIES
           :CUSTOM_ID: directors
           </pre>
        
        new:
           <div id="outline-container-directors" class="outline-2">
           <h2 id="directors"><a id="sec-1" name="sec-1"/>Directors</h2>
           <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-directors">
        
           [no <pre> section]
        --------------------------------------------------
        
        Thanks again for moving this forward!
        
        -BC
        Org-mode: 7.8.11 (release_7.8.11-24-g4144c5)
        Emacs: 24.1.50.1
        Windows 7
        
        
        
        ----------------------------------------------------------------------
        Full text excerpts follow:    input(org) / output(new) / output(old)
        ----------------------------------------------------------------------
        
        Input (org-mode)
        ----------------------------------------------------------------------
        
        #+OPTIONS:   H:3 -:t *:t
        #+OPTIONS:   num:nil  toc:nil
        #+OPTIONS:   <:nil  timestamp:nil
        #+OPTIONS:   author:nil  creator:nil
        
        This is the first paragraph, before any links or sections.
        
        First try, with only word {{directors}}: [[directors]]
        
        Second, with word and hash {{#directors}}: [[#directors]]
        
        Third, with word and target, {{directors}{Directors}}:
        [[directors][Directors]]
        
        Fourth, hash-word and target, {{#directors}{Directors}}:
        [[#directors][Directors]]
        
        A blank, spacer paragraph, before the target.
        
        * Directors
          :PROPERTIES:
          :CUSTOM_ID: directors
          :END:
        
        Just to end, a closing paragraph.
        
        ----------------------------------------------------------------------
        
        Output ("new" engine)   (Also: two extra blank-lines before each <p>):
        ----------------------------------------------------------------------
        
        <p>
        This is the first paragraph, before any links or sections.
        </p>
        
        
        <p>
        First try, with only word {{directors}}: <i>directors</i>
        </p>
        
        
        <p>
        Second, with word and hash {{#directors}}: <a href="#sec-1">Directors</a>
        </p>
        
        
        <p>
        Third, with word and target, {{directors}{Directors}}: <i>Directors</i>
        </p>
        
        
        <p>
        Fourth, hash-word and target, {{#directors}{Directors}}: <a
        href="#sec-1">Directors</a>
        </p>
        
        
        <p>
        A blank, spacer paragraph, before the target.
        </p>
        
        <div id="outline-container-directors" class="outline-2">
        <h2 id="directors"><a id="sec-1" name="sec-1"/>Directors</h2>
        <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-directors">
        
        
        <p>
        Just to end, a closing paragraph.
        </p>
        </div>
        </div>
        
        ----------------------------------------------------------------------
        
        Output ("old" engine):
        ----------------------------------------------------------------------
        
        <p>This is the first paragraph, before any links or sections.
        </p>
        <p>
        First try, with only word {{directors}}: <a href="#sec-1">directors</a>
        </p>
        <p>
        Second, with word and hash {{#directors}}: <a
        href="#directors">#directors</a>
        </p>
        <p>
        Third, with word and target, {{directors}{Directors}}: <a
        href="#sec-1">Directors</a>
        </p>
        <p>
        Fourth, hash-word and target, {{#directors}{Directors}}: <a
        href="#directors">Directors</a>
        </p>
        <p>
        A blank, spacer paragraph, before the target.
        </p>
        
        <div id="outline-container-directors" class="outline-2">
        <h2 id="directors"><a name="sec-1" id="sec-1"></a>Directors</h2>
        <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-directors">
        
        <pre class="example">
        PROPERTIES
        :CUSTOM_ID: directors
        </pre>
        
        
        <p>
        Just to end, a closing paragraph.
        </p></div>
        </div>
        
        -------------------------------------------------[end]----------------
        
        
        
        
        On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 5:08 AM, Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>wrote:
        
        > Hello,
        >
        [...]
        >
        Again, "#crandall" syntax should be used to target an headline with
        > "crandall" as value for its custom-id property. See section 4.2 in the
        > manual.
        >
        > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------ ------->8---
        > * BC Crandall
        >  :PROPERTIES:
        >  :CUSTOM_ID: crandall
        >  :END:
        >
        >   [[#crandall][Description]]
        > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
        >
        >
        > If you are linking to a target, simply call its name.
        >
        > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------ ------->8---
        > * <<crandall>>BC Crandall
        >
        >   A [[crandall][link]] to headline [[crandall]]
        > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
        >
        > Notice the difference between the link with or without a description.
        >
        >
        > Regards,
        >
        > --
        > Nicolas Goaziou
        >
        
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      • • * Re: Testing: org-export-e-html
            2012-06-01  3:56       ` William Crandall
          @ 2012-06-01  6:42         ` William Crandall
            2012-06-01 16:38         ` Nicolas Goaziou
            1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
          From: William Crandall @ 2012-06-01  6:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
            To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Jambunathan K
          
          Nicolas,
          
          My email program (Gmail) deleted key HTML text,
          
          Here, again, the core bit, as plain text, I hope it goes through:
          
          --------------------------------------------------
          
          Four input permutations:
          
          1. [[directors]]
          2. [[#directors]]
          3. [[directors][Directors]]
          4. [[#directors][Directors]]
          
          
          As I see it (do let me know what I'm getting wrong!),
          the old version gets all links right.
          
          (But "old" makes one error(?) see next section.)
          
          1. [[directors]]
             old: <a href="#sec-1">directors</a>
             new: <i>directors</i>
          
          2. [[#directors]]
             old: <a href="#directors">#directors</a>
             new: <a href="#sec-1">Directors</a>
          
          3. [[directors][Directors]]
             old: <a href="#sec-1">Directors</a>
             new: <i>Directors</i>
          
          4. [[#directors][Directors]]
             old: <a href="#directors">Directors</a>
             new: <a href="#sec-1">Directors</a>
          
          
          In no case is the output the same!
          
          #4 would be most useful for my purposes, as it allows
          identifying target links precisely.
          
          --------------------------------------------------
          
          Turning to the output for targets, the new version
          does not close the <a> tag (as the old version does).
          Other than that, "new" seems fine.
          
          ("Old" generates a <pre> section from the PROPERTIES drawer,
          whether it is open or closed, with your encoding. Not my focus,
          but is this an "old" bug?)
          
          Org-mode input:
             * Directors
               :PROPERTIES:
               :CUSTOM_ID: directors
               :END:
          
          HTML output:
          old:
             <div id="outline-container-directors" class="outline-2">
             <h2 id="directors"><a name="sec-1" id="sec-1"></a>Directors</h2>
             <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-directors">
          
             <pre class="example">
             PROPERTIES
             :CUSTOM_ID: directors
             </pre>
          
          new:
             <div id="outline-container-directors" class="outline-2">
             <h2 id="directors"><a id="sec-1" name="sec-1"/>Directors</h2>
             <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-directors">
          
             [no <pre> section]
          --------------------------------------------------
          
          
          
          
          On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:56 PM, William Crandall <bc3141592@gmail.com> wrote:
          >
          >
          > Hello Nicolas,
          >
          > To wrap my neurons around linking, I made a small test batch.
          > There appear to be several difference between the "old" HTML
          > export engine and the current version of the "new".
          >
          > Testing org-to-HTML export:
          >    old: C-c C-e h      (org-export, in org-exp.el)
          >    new: M-x org-export-dispatch h  (in org-export.el)
          >
          > Four input permutations:
          >
          > 1. [[directors]]
          > 2. [[#directors]]
          > 3. [[directors][Directors]]
          > 4. [[#directors][Directors]]
          >
          >
          > As I see it (do let me know what I'm getting wrong!),
          > the old version gets all links right.
          >
          > (But "old" makes one error(?) see next section.)
          >
          > 1. [[directors]]
          >    old: <a href="#sec-1">directors</a>
          >    new: <i>directors</i>
          
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        • * Re: Testing: org-export-e-html
            2012-06-01  3:56       ` William Crandall
            2012-06-01  6:42         ` William Crandall
          @ 2012-06-01 16:38         ` Nicolas Goaziou
            2012-06-02  2:56           ` William Crandall
            1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
          From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2012-06-01 16:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
            To: William Crandall; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Jambunathan K
          
          Hello,
          
          William Crandall <bc3141592@gmail.com> writes:
          
          > 1. [[directors]]
          > 2. [[#directors]]
          > 3. [[directors][Directors]]
          > 4. [[#directors][Directors]]
          >
          >
          > As I see it (do let me know what I'm getting wrong!),
          > the old version gets all links right.
          >
          > (But "old" makes one error(?) see next section.)
          >
          > 1. [[directors]]
          >    old: <a href="#sec-1">directors</a>
          >    new: <i>directors</i>
          >
          > 2. [[#directors]]
          >    old: <a href="#directors">#directors</a>
          >    new: <a href="#sec-1">Directors</a>
          >
          > 3. [[directors][Directors]]
          >    old: <a href="#sec-1">Directors</a>
          >    new: <i>Directors</i>
          >
          > 4. [[#directors][Directors]]
          >    old: <a href="#directors">Directors</a>
          >    new: <a href="#sec-1">Directors</a>
          >
          >
          > In no case is the output the same!
          
          <i>directors</i> is a fallback output meaning that export engine wasn't
          able to find which object you were linking to. Provide targets for these
          links and the output will be different.
          
          > #4 would be most useful for my purposes, as it allows
          > identifying target links precisely.
          
          Org has syntax to identify target links precisely. I gave you a few
          examples in a previous mail.
          
          > Turning to the output for targets, the new version
          > does not close the <a> tag (as the old version does).
          > Other than that, "new" seems fine.
          >
          > ("Old" generates a <pre> section from the PROPERTIES drawer,
          > whether it is open or closed, with your encoding. Not my focus,
          > but is this an "old" bug?)
          
          Properties drawers are ignored in every back-end by default. There is no
          old or new bug, the behaviour has evolved.
          
          > Output ("new" engine)   (Also: two extra blank-lines before each <p>):
          
          That was a mistake in `org-e-html.el'. There should be as much blank
          lines in the Org buffer as in HTML output. I fixed the problem in
          a recent commit.
          
          
          Regards,
          
          -- 
          Nicolas Goaziou
          
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        • • * Re: Testing: org-export-e-html
              2012-06-01 16:38         ` Nicolas Goaziou
            @ 2012-06-02  2:56           ` William Crandall
              2012-06-02  5:04             ` Jambunathan K
              0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
            From: William Crandall @ 2012-06-02  2:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
              To: Nicolas Goaziou, Jambunathan K; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
            
            Hello Jambunathan and Nicolas,
            
            Thanks for your recent updates!
            
            Links are proving to be quite a challenge.
            
            Here is my new test file, and "new" and "old" HTML output,
            comparing the two engines:
            
               "old": C-c C-e h      (org-export, in org-exp.el)
               "new": M-x org-export-dispatch h  (in org-export.el)
            
            
            The entire content of test.org:
            
            ----------------------------------------------------------------------
            --------------------------------------------------------- Org (input):
            
            Link and description, to anchor in headline: [[#directors][Directors]]
            
            Link and description, to anchor in paragraph: [[#bc][BC]]
            
            * <<directors>>Directors
            
            Paragraph with a /dedicated target/: <<bc>>
            
            -----------------------------------------------------------------[end]
            ----------------------------------------------------------------------
            
            
            Reading the Manual (7.8.11), Section 4.2, this org code should,
            I think, export exactly as the "old" engine does it, with anchor
            href's linking to two targets (Firefox renders it perfectly):
            
            ----------------------------------------------------------------------
            ------------------------------------------------- "Old" HTML (output):
            
            <p>
            Link and description, to anchor in headline: <a href="#directors">Directors</a>
            </p>
            <p>
            Link and description, to anchor in paragraph: <a href="#bc">BC</a>
            </p>
            
            <div id="outline-container-1" class="outline-2">
            <h2 id="sec-1"><a name="directors" class="target">directors</a> Directors</h2>
            <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-1">
            
            <p>
            Paragraph with a <i>dedicated target</i>: <a name="bc" class="target">bc</a> BC
            </p>
            </div>
            </div>
            
            -----------------------------------------------------------------[end]
            ----------------------------------------------------------------------
            
            
            The "old" engine is fine (if attuned to HTML4 more than HTML5).
            
            Here is the "new" output (Org-mode release_7.8.11-32-g02f3ee).
            
            ----------------------------------------------------------------------
            ------------------------------------------------- "New" HTML (output):
            
            <p>
            Link and description, to anchor in headline: <i>Directors</i>
            </p>
            
            <p>
            Link and description, to anchor in paragraph: <i>BC</i>
            </p>
            
            <div id="outline-container-1" class="outline-2">
            <h2 id="sec-1"><a id="directors" name="directors"/>Directors</h2>
            <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-1">
            
            <p>
            Paragraph with a <i>dedicated target</i>: <a id="bc" name="bc"/>BC
            </p>
            </div>
            </div>
            
            -----------------------------------------------------------------[end]
            ----------------------------------------------------------------------
            
            
            I see four discrepancies, in two groups:
            
            1. Both links out (first two p's), to id's in an <h> and  a <p>,
            do not generate links (<a href="#foo">foo</a>).
            
            2. At both anchors, <a>, in the <h2> and the <p>, the <a> tag
            is not closed with an </a>. This may be related to the errors
            noted in point one, as the HTML is malformed without them.
            
            
            I *really like* the direction the new engine is heading,
            with id attributes in <a> tags, and making the <<target>>
            non-visible. And tighter spacing. All good stuff!
            
            Many thanks for doing the heavy lifting!
            
            I look forward to your next commits.
            
            -BC
            
            Org-mode: 7.8.11 (release_7.8.11-32-g02f3ee)
            Emacs: 24.1.50.1
            Windows 7
            
            
            
            
            On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> wrote:
            >
            > Hello,
            >
            > William Crandall <bc3141592@gmail.com> writes:
            >
            >
            
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          • • * Re: Testing: org-export-e-html
                2012-06-02  2:56           ` William Crandall
              @ 2012-06-02  5:04             ` Jambunathan K
                2012-06-02  7:40               ` William Crandall
                0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
              From: Jambunathan K @ 2012-06-02  5:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
                To: William Crandall; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Nicolas Goaziou
              
              
              Crandall
              
              There is some confusion on your end :-).
              
              > --------------------------------------------------------- Org (input):
              >
              > Link and description, to anchor in headline: [[#directors][Directors]]
              >
              > Link and description, to anchor in paragraph: [[#bc][BC]]
              
              Remove the "#"es.
              
              > * <<directors>>Directors
              >
              > Paragraph with a /dedicated target/: <<bc>>
              >
              > -----------------------------------------------------------------[end]
              
              
              > 1. Both links out (first two p's), to id's in an <h> and  a <p>,
              > do not generate links (<a href="#foo">foo</a>).
              
              You are using targets.  So you shouldn't use "#"es.  This was what
              Nicolas was trying to tell you.
              
              > 2. At both anchors, <a>, in the <h2> and the <p>, the <a> tag
              > is not closed with an </a>. This may be related to the errors
              > noted in point one, as the HTML is malformed without them.
              
              Put the HTML file in nxml-mode and do C-c C-n.  I see no validation
              errors.  The HTML file definitely is not malformed.
              
              [Context switch]
              
              Here is the modified Org file you should be using.  When you are linking
              to headlines, use CUSTOM_IDs and *not* targets. Links to CUSTOM_IDs have
              a `#' in front while don't targets are *without* `#'es.
              
              --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
              Link and description, to anchor in headline: [[directors][Directors]]
              
              Link and description, to anchor in paragraph: [[bc][BC]]
              
              * <<directors>> Directors
              
              Paragraph with a /dedicated target/: <<bc>>
              
              
              * Headline wiith CUSTOM_ID
                :PROPERTIES:
                :CUSTOM_ID: director-1
                :END:
              
              
              #+target: invisible
              * Recommendation about using links
              
              Always link to headline using [[#director-1][Headline wiith
              CUSTOM_ID]].  Use targets when you want to jump to obscure location
              [[bc]].  Never use [[invisible][Invisible target]].  They will
              disappear on export.
              
              For more information on how links are structured see the
              [[http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2012-02/msg00752.html][this
              post]].
              --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
              
              Btw, thanks for your patience and sticking it out right through to the
              end.
              
              Jambunathan K.
              
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            • • * Re: Testing: org-export-e-html
                  2012-06-02  5:04             ` Jambunathan K
                @ 2012-06-02  7:40               ` William Crandall
                  2012-06-02 10:26                 ` Jambunathan K
                  0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
                From: William Crandall @ 2012-06-02  7:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
                  To: Jambunathan K; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Nicolas Goaziou
                
                Jambunathan,
                
                Thanks to you, and Nicolas, for your patience.
                
                I now see (blindingly, now that I do see) that the export engine
                adds the # to internal links, not me.
                
                The only trailing issue I see is the "soft error" of no </a> tag
                on <<targets>> (see W3C notes below).
                
                
                
                This (org):
                ------------------------------------------------------------
                Link and description, to anchor in paragraph: [[bc][BC]]
                
                Paragraph with a /dedicated target/: <<bc>>BC
                ------------------------------------------------------------
                
                Exports to (new):
                ------------------------------------------------------------
                <p>
                Link and description, to anchor in paragraph: <a href="#bc">BC</a>
                </p>
                <p>
                Paragraph with a <i>dedicated target</i>: <a id="bc" name="bc"/>BC
                </p>
                ------------------------------------------------------------
                
                Success!
                
                ------------------------------------------------------------
                
                
                And headlines with a <<target>> are also fine:
                
                This (org):
                ------------------------------------------------------------
                Link and description, to anchor in headline: [[directors][Directors]]
                
                * <<directors>>Directors
                ------------------------------------------------------------
                
                Exports to (new):
                ------------------------------------------------------------
                <p>
                Link and description, to anchor in headline: <a href="#directors">Directors</a>
                </p>
                
                <div id="outline-container-1" class="outline-2">
                <h2 id="sec-1"><a id="directors" name="directors"/>Directors</h2>
                <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-1">
                ------------------------------------------------------------
                
                Success!
                
                ------------------------------------------------------------
                
                And I /understand/ how ":PROPERTIES: :CUSTOM_ID: directors" in
                a headline, can be linked to with: [[#directors][Directors]],
                WITH a # that I, not the engine, insert.
                
                
                So I'm good to go! Many thanks.
                
                ------------------------------------------------------------
                ------------------------------------------------------------
                
                
                One trailing point:
                
                You may want to consider adding a formal closing </a> tag for
                <<target>> elements (as the "old" engine does) rather than just
                "self-closing" the <a> tag with a "/>".
                
                
                A Firefox comment (viewing source) caught my attention:
                
                    "Self-closing syntax ("/>") used on a non-void HTML element.
                    Ignoring the slash and treating as a start tag."
                
                Then I found this:
                
                http://www.w3.org/TR/html-markup/syntax.html#syntax-elements
                
                    "A non-void element must have an end tag, unless the subsection
                    for that element in the HTML elements section of this reference
                    indicates that its end tag can be omitted."
                
                And this:
                
                http://www.w3.org/TR/html-markup/a.html#a-tags
                
                    "An a element must have both a start tag and an end tag."
                
                ------------------------------
                
                I take all of this to mean that "it would be best" to use "</a>"
                closing tags, rather than "self-closing" an "<a ..." with a "/>".
                
                But again, the way it is works for me. Many thanks.
                
                Best of luck on the rest of it!
                
                -BC
                
                
                On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> wrote:
                >
                > Crandall
                >
                > There is some confusion on your end :-).
                
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              • • * Re: Testing: org-export-e-html
                    2012-06-02  7:40               ` William Crandall
                  @ 2012-06-02 10:26                 ` Jambunathan K
                    0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
                  From: Jambunathan K @ 2012-06-02 10:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
                    To: William Crandall; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
                  
                  
                  > The only trailing issue I see is the "soft error" of no </a> tag
                  > on <<targets>> (see W3C notes below).
                  
                  > http://www.w3.org/TR/html-markup/a.html#a-tags
                  >
                  >     "An a element must have both a start tag and an end tag."
                  
                  This is now fixed.
                  
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• * Re: Testing: org-export-e-html
    2012-05-30  6:27 Testing: org-export-e-html (was: Drupal syntax on html-export) William Crandall
    2012-05-30  7:08 ` Testing: org-export-e-html Sebastien Vauban
    2012-05-30 11:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
  @ 2012-05-31  6:42 ` Jambunathan K
    2012-06-01  3:44   ` William Crandall
    2 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
  From: Jambunathan K @ 2012-05-31  6:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
    To: William Crandall; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Nicolas Goaziou
  
  > But first line of test.html:
  >
  >   <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
  
  This is fixed.  Please pull again.
  
  There was one another issue: Heading with CUSTOM_IDS were not getting
  the associated property as an anchor.  This is also fixed.
  
  Issues wrt images links and target links are still *pending*.
  Hopefully, it will be fixed in the next iteration.
  
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• • * Re: Testing: org-export-e-html
      2012-05-31  6:42 ` Jambunathan K
    @ 2012-06-01  3:44   ` William Crandall
      0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
    From: William Crandall @ 2012-06-01  3:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
      To: Jambunathan K; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Nicolas Goaziou
    
    [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 712 bytes --]
    
    Hello Jambunathan,
    
    UTF-8! Yes! Many thanks.
    
    Now:
       <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
    
    
    Still snagging on targets and links.
    Will detail in next message.
    
    -BC
    Org-mode: 7.8.11 (release_7.8.11-24-g4144c5)
    Emacs: 24.1.50.1
    Windows 7
    
    
    
    
    On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>wrote:
    
    > > But first line of test.html:
    > >
    > >   <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
    >
    > This is fixed.  Please pull again.
    >
    > There was one another issue: Heading with CUSTOM_IDS were not getting
    > the associated property as an anchor.  This is also fixed.
    >
    > Issues wrt images links and target links are still *pending*.
    > Hopefully, it will be fixed in the next iteration.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    
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2012-06-02  7:40               ` William Crandall
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