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From: Rainer M Krug <r.m.krug@gmail.com>
To: Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Leech-Pepin <jonathan.leechpepin@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Offer for taking over maintainership
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:22:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <511CACE9.3030000@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vc9v1jih.fsf@gmail.com>

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On 14/02/13 07:45, Jambunathan K wrote:
> 
> (Discussion is meta.  So bear with my amateurish excursions.)
> 
> Some times the best question to ask is NOT "What I stand to gain?" but "What I/We stand to
> lose?".  Are the overheads worth it in the long run?

Yes - we want to know - tell us and don't talk in riddles.

Try to convince us, or hold forever your peace. Unless you can convince me / us that you would be
a better maintainer, Bastien has my full support.

And please - let us go back to the useful community org was.


Cheers,

Rainer

> 
> Everyone wants to gain all the time without losing anything.  I call that interesting.
> 
> Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> You seem to stand out in the mob.  So some personal hugs from side.
>> 
>>>> Offer closes in 7 days.  Only pre-condition will be that Org-8.0 and subsequent releases
>>>> happen under my supervision.
>>>> 
>>> Is there something in particular about the forthcoming 8.0 that you would want done
>>> differently from how it currently is being done? Considering Bastien's current plan is to
>>> push towards releasing it in the near future.
>> 
>> I wish more people ask an open-ended question rather than sit in judgement seat.  Trial by
>> jury is always interesting.  (There is also an interesting movie I have seen on this topic,
>> decades ago.)
>> 
>>> I appreciate the org-odt exporter, I haven't had much use for it but what I have had to use
>>> it for it worked perfectly.  However your attitude in the past has often struck me as
>>> abrasive or argumentative when there was little to no reason for it.  Either there's some 
>>> underlying reason for your apparent dislike for Bastien and his approach to maintaining
>>> Org, or some argument in the past that I am not aware of.
>> 
>> Why would most people think that I am a moron.  The last line is exemplary of what the jury
>> and the judge should mull about.
>> 
>> ps-1: I refuse to answer your questions.  The debate and offer is on my terms if people don't
>> understand it.
>> 
>> ps-2: I am calling everyone's bluff, if you haven't realized it already. (Believe me, I am
>> not acting like a smart donkey here.)
>> 
>> ps-3: An extra and a proven hand helps particularly in volunteer driven efforts.  My palm
>> could be stinking?  Does that mean my code stinks.  Most people would rather talk, than look,
>> think, ask or do?
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-14  9:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-13 18:08 Offer for taking over maintainership Jambunathan K
2013-02-13 19:01 ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-13 20:45 ` John Wiegley
2013-02-13 21:31   ` Allen S. Rout
2013-02-13 21:41     ` Russell Adams
2013-02-14  0:11       ` Scott Randby
2013-02-14  9:09     ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-13 22:03 ` Charles Philip Chan
2013-02-13 22:11 ` Yagnesh Raghava Yakkala
2013-02-14  8:55   ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-14  9:53     ` Bastien
2013-02-14  9:55       ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-14  9:59         ` Bastien
2013-02-14 10:25           ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-13 22:18 ` Bastien
2013-02-14  9:18   ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-14  9:38     ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-14  9:54     ` Glyn Millington
2013-02-14 10:35       ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-14  0:06 ` François Pinard
2013-02-14  8:38   ` Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
2013-02-14 10:37   ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-14 16:31     ` François Pinard
2013-02-14 23:28       ` Carsten Dominik
2013-02-15  3:23         ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-15  4:11           ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-14  1:12 ` Takaaki ISHIKAWA
     [not found]   ` <CAJcAo8ueOp8dDBwq+bEufZJ1kSZLpVxY36L7eKUt4QDwRH98zQ@mail.gmail.com>
2013-02-14  1:40     ` Fwd: " Samuel Wales
2013-02-14  9:22       ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-14  1:16 ` Jonathan Leech-Pepin
2013-02-14  6:36   ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-14  6:45     ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-14  9:22       ` Rainer M Krug [this message]
2013-02-14  9:50         ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-14  9:53           ` Rainer M Krug
2013-02-14  7:37   ` Bastien
2013-02-14 10:12     ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-14 10:54     ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-14 16:07     ` François Pinard
2013-02-14  7:59 ` David Rogers
2013-02-14 10:40 ` Nicolas Richard
2013-02-14 11:37   ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-14 11:41     ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-14 11:57     ` Detlef Steuer
2013-02-14 13:26     ` Julian Burgos
2013-02-14 13:39       ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-14 11:54   ` Jambunathan K
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-02-14 15:36 Jose E. Marchesi
2013-02-14 15:41 ` Allen S. Rout
2013-02-14 17:38 ` Jambunathan K

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