From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Rainer M Krug Subject: Re: Offer for taking over maintainership Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:22:49 +0100 Message-ID: <511CACE9.3030000@gmail.com> References: <878v6s13yo.fsf@gmail.com> <87y5erqu4i.fsf@gmail.com> <87vc9v1jih.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39646) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5v1x-0002cR-4d for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 04:23:07 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5v1q-00071i-Cl for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 04:23:00 -0500 Received: from mail-wg0-f52.google.com ([74.125.82.52]:51429) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1U5v1q-00071M-6I for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 04:22:54 -0500 Received: by mail-wg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id 12so1713214wgh.19 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 01:22:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87vc9v1jih.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Jambunathan K , Jonathan Leech-Pepin Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 14/02/13 07:45, Jambunathan K wrote: > > (Discussion is meta. So bear with my amateurish excursions.) > > Some times the best question to ask is NOT "What I stand to gain?" but "What I/We stand to > lose?". Are the overheads worth it in the long run? Yes - we want to know - tell us and don't talk in riddles. Try to convince us, or hold forever your peace. Unless you can convince me / us that you would be a better maintainer, Bastien has my full support. And please - let us go back to the useful community org was. Cheers, Rainer > > Everyone wants to gain all the time without losing anything. I call that interesting. > > Jambunathan K writes: > >> You seem to stand out in the mob. So some personal hugs from side. >> >>>> Offer closes in 7 days. Only pre-condition will be that Org-8.0 and subsequent releases >>>> happen under my supervision. >>>> >>> Is there something in particular about the forthcoming 8.0 that you would want done >>> differently from how it currently is being done? Considering Bastien's current plan is to >>> push towards releasing it in the near future. >> >> I wish more people ask an open-ended question rather than sit in judgement seat. Trial by >> jury is always interesting. (There is also an interesting movie I have seen on this topic, >> decades ago.) >> >>> I appreciate the org-odt exporter, I haven't had much use for it but what I have had to use >>> it for it worked perfectly. However your attitude in the past has often struck me as >>> abrasive or argumentative when there was little to no reason for it. Either there's some >>> underlying reason for your apparent dislike for Bastien and his approach to maintaining >>> Org, or some argument in the past that I am not aware of. >> >> Why would most people think that I am a moron. The last line is exemplary of what the jury >> and the judge should mull about. >> >> ps-1: I refuse to answer your questions. The debate and offer is on my terms if people don't >> understand it. >> >> ps-2: I am calling everyone's bluff, if you haven't realized it already. (Believe me, I am >> not acting like a smart donkey here.) >> >> ps-3: An extra and a proven hand helps particularly in volunteer driven efforts. My palm >> could be stinking? Does that mean my code stinks. Most people would rather talk, than look, >> think, ask or do? > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRHKzpAAoJENvXNx4PUvmC+bwIALCFTvOb7LpyhI/IX5ZGkxwE WqE+W1mF8y0RforNZr+O0VTvYGCp68GvlitJTBxMNSIqjmCpSEVFDA9g8gxAJ1Xy YE2uF6kNAMXqj2MYZhH0pBvYszoqFHLmQou0SbWUbuwL2CH1+sMmJxGuSIvJSVQi AvKlh1y5N9EFSCTsOF73lSqCxS5R91d/BeM+UdKTviIYBMzcFkCWxy68pk+1iK0q jUIb93UHzH8P+qHnN0XFLqfE+VDDR3fvpa6Qlho/cm3OfyuYw7E6HGV2hYUnBqfy ZU76jHlkYHOfBx8azDHixk7+Lbun6Ri1MZW2CYkuUJ0dyv7zZz0EJwTYiaLLTSQ= =nAOR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----