* Header levels and section numbering > 3, in LaTeX export @ 2010-10-06 3:36 ` Kai 2010-10-06 4:22 ` Indraneel Majumdar 2010-10-06 5:38 ` Nick Dokos 0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Kai @ 2010-10-06 3:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode With a .org file having headers 4-5 levels deep (e.g. **** This Section), I'd like the LaTeX export to treat it as a subsubsubsection with numbering, e.g. 1.1.1.1. But no luck, and I'm not sure whether I'm doing something wrong with org-mode, or need to customize my LaTeX template. In the org file I have: #+OPTIONS: H:5 num:t ...which does give the TeX markup of \label{sec-1_1_1_1} in the .tex file, but the header text is wrapped in a \paragraph{The Header}, instead of \subsubsubsection{The Header}. Is there a way to have the org-mode LaTeX export mark that up as a subsubsubsection? I'm using the org-mode trunk. Thanks in advance for any help, K ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Header levels and section numbering > 3, in LaTeX export 2010-10-06 3:36 ` Header levels and section numbering > 3, in LaTeX export Kai @ 2010-10-06 4:22 ` Indraneel Majumdar 2010-10-06 5:38 ` Nick Dokos 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Indraneel Majumdar @ 2010-10-06 4:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Kai; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Hi, If you're 4 levels down, it'll be a sub sub sub section, same as a paragraph * Section ** Sub section *** Sub Sub section **** Paragraph ***** Sub paragraph H:5 will give you the levels but you have to enable numbering explicitly with \setcounter{secnumdepth}{5} paragraph is actually a sectioning command. If you want to use it as sub sub sub section do this: **** Sub sub sub section heading Paragraph starts here... If you simply want numbered paragraphs, do this: **** Paragraph starts here... And \includepackage{titlesec} to iron out the redundant spaces that would otherwise appear. HTH, Indraneel On 2010-10-06 9:06, Kai wrote: > With a .org file having headers 4-5 levels deep (e.g. **** This > Section), I'd like the LaTeX export to treat it as a subsubsubsection > with numbering, e.g. 1.1.1.1. But no luck, and I'm not sure whether > I'm doing something wrong with org-mode, or need to customize my LaTeX > template. In the org file I have: > > #+OPTIONS: H:5 num:t > > ...which does give the TeX markup of \label{sec-1_1_1_1} in the .tex > file, but the header text is wrapped in a \paragraph{The Header}, > instead of \subsubsubsection{The Header}. > > Is there a way to have the org-mode LaTeX export mark that up as a > subsubsubsection? I'm using the org-mode trunk. Thanks in advance > for any help, > > K > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Header levels and section numbering > 3, in LaTeX export 2010-10-06 3:36 ` Header levels and section numbering > 3, in LaTeX export Kai 2010-10-06 4:22 ` Indraneel Majumdar @ 2010-10-06 5:38 ` Nick Dokos 2010-10-06 21:45 ` Scot Becker 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Nick Dokos @ 2010-10-06 5:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Kai; +Cc: nicholas.dokos, emacs-orgmode Kai <k@limist.com> wrote: > With a .org file having headers 4-5 levels deep (e.g. **** This > Section), I'd like the LaTeX export to treat it as a subsubsubsection > with numbering, e.g. 1.1.1.1. But no luck, and I'm not sure whether > I'm doing something wrong with org-mode, or need to customize my LaTeX > template. In the org file I have: > > #+OPTIONS: H:5 num:t > > ...which does give the TeX markup of \label{sec-1_1_1_1} in the .tex > file, but the header text is wrapped in a \paragraph{The Header}, > instead of \subsubsubsection{The Header}. > > Is there a way to have the org-mode LaTeX export mark that up as a > subsubsubsection? I'm using the org-mode trunk. Thanks in advance > for any help, > This is a LaTeX limitation (if you want to call it that), not an orgmode one. See http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=subsubsub for some workarounds/comments/references (but be prepared for at least some strangeness). HTH, Nick ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Header levels and section numbering > 3, in LaTeX export 2010-10-06 5:38 ` Nick Dokos @ 2010-10-06 21:45 ` Scot Becker 2010-10-07 1:06 ` Indraneel Majumdar 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Scot Becker @ 2010-10-06 21:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: nicholas.dokos; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Kai And if you just want deeply nested numbered paragraphs, like lists. You might try the Easylist package: http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/easylist.html You'd have to do a tweak or to to get org-mode to export to easylist, but it shouldn't be too complicated, since easylist takes its input in a format almost exactly like org's native outline structure. Scot On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> wrote: > Kai <k@limist.com> wrote: > >> With a .org file having headers 4-5 levels deep (e.g. **** This >> Section), I'd like the LaTeX export to treat it as a subsubsubsection >> with numbering, e.g. 1.1.1.1. But no luck, and I'm not sure whether >> I'm doing something wrong with org-mode, or need to customize my LaTeX >> template. In the org file I have: >> >> #+OPTIONS: H:5 num:t >> >> ...which does give the TeX markup of \label{sec-1_1_1_1} in the .tex >> file, but the header text is wrapped in a \paragraph{The Header}, >> instead of \subsubsubsection{The Header}. >> >> Is there a way to have the org-mode LaTeX export mark that up as a >> subsubsubsection? I'm using the org-mode trunk. Thanks in advance >> for any help, >> > > This is a LaTeX limitation (if you want to call it that), not an orgmode > one. See > > http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=subsubsub > > for some workarounds/comments/references (but be prepared for at least some > strangeness). > > HTH, > Nick > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Header levels and section numbering > 3, in LaTeX export 2010-10-06 21:45 ` Scot Becker @ 2010-10-07 1:06 ` Indraneel Majumdar 2010-10-07 9:55 ` Scot Becker 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Indraneel Majumdar @ 2010-10-07 1:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Scot Becker; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Thanks Scot, exactlt what I was looking for, and I was actually deliberating on the Tractacus! I couldn't get easylist to understand the \star symbol that orgmode uses. Do you know how to do that? And also to skip the first 3 stars in a level4 heading (if I want to retain latex's default top 3 levels)? Indraneel On 2010-10-07 3:15, Scot Becker wrote: > And if you just want deeply nested numbered paragraphs, like lists. > You might try the Easylist package: > > http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/easylist.html > > You'd have to do a tweak or to to get org-mode to export to easylist, > but it shouldn't be too complicated, since easylist takes its input in > a format almost exactly like org's native outline structure. > > Scot > > > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Nick Dokos<nicholas.dokos@hp.com> wrote: >> Kai<k@limist.com> wrote: >> >>> With a .org file having headers 4-5 levels deep (e.g. **** This >>> Section), I'd like the LaTeX export to treat it as a subsubsubsection >>> with numbering, e.g. 1.1.1.1. But no luck, and I'm not sure whether >>> I'm doing something wrong with org-mode, or need to customize my LaTeX >>> template. In the org file I have: >>> >>> #+OPTIONS: H:5 num:t >>> >>> ...which does give the TeX markup of \label{sec-1_1_1_1} in the .tex >>> file, but the header text is wrapped in a \paragraph{The Header}, >>> instead of \subsubsubsection{The Header}. >>> >>> Is there a way to have the org-mode LaTeX export mark that up as a >>> subsubsubsection? I'm using the org-mode trunk. Thanks in advance >>> for any help, >>> >> This is a LaTeX limitation (if you want to call it that), not an orgmode >> one. See >> >> http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=subsubsub >> >> for some workarounds/comments/references (but be prepared for at least some >> strangeness). >> >> HTH, >> Nick >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Header levels and section numbering > 3, in LaTeX export 2010-10-07 1:06 ` Indraneel Majumdar @ 2010-10-07 9:55 ` Scot Becker 2010-10-08 10:24 ` Indraneel Majumdar 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Scot Becker @ 2010-10-07 9:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Indraneel Majumdar; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Indraneel, > Thanks Scot, exactlt what I was looking for, and I was actually > deliberating on the Tractacus! Funny. Glad it looks like it may work. > I couldn't get easylist to understand the > \star symbol that orgmode uses. Do you know how to do that? No. You might have seen the footnote in the easylist documentation (on p. 2) which says: "You might not be happy with the symbols and maybe you'd like to use another one, or simply have your favorite symbol as default to avoid remembering such a cumbersome name as 'pilcrow'. Here's a simple hack that does the job: select the entire code of the package, and replace all occurrences of Ÿ (<<-- the pilcrow) with your symbol. Make sure you won't use it in the list for other purposes, though." I've not tried this, however. It would be nice if there were a dead easy way to get easylist and org-mode to work well together, since the two are very natural partners. Let me know if you can make this work. > And also to skip > the first 3 stars in a level4 heading (if I want to retain latex's default > top 3 levels)? I've never actually gone all the way to making a document easy-to-publish with Easylist. I've just manually converted org-mode's stars to a character Easylist can understand, then manually wrapped the whole thing in a LaTeX preamble. The ideal would be to automate the process, perhaps by using org-babel and putting your easylist sections in special code blocks. But I've not taken the time to figure all that out. Failing that, I bet you could do a halfway hack with minimal amount of manual work. For example (if I understand you correctly), you could make an org document like this: * Regular org heading ** Subheading ** Here's a third-level heading STARTLIST **** My first thesis, which is longer and wordier than it probably should be. ***** Of course it's nothing compared to the length of its supporting arguments ***** Both of them **** Here is my second thesis, as convincing as the first ENDLIST Org-mode will let you do all of that, just fine. Then either manually, or with a temporary latex export hook, do something like this: replace STARTLIST with \begin{easylist} and ENDLIST with \end{easylist} replace '**** ' with '& ' and '***** ' with '&& ' and ****** ' with '&&& ', etc. If you do it in an export hook, I think you'd want to do it in one that runs before everything else. That way org-mode will leave everthing in your easylist environment alone. What that will do to quotation marks and /emphasis/ I don't know. This should leave you with an easylist which starts at level '1', in a document which uses org's header levels 1-3 in the normal latex way. Is that what you want? Make sure in the preamble, you have \usepackage[ampersand]{easylist} Let me know if you need help figuring any of this out in detail. That's just a rough sketch. Cheers, Scot ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: Header levels and section numbering > 3, in LaTeX export 2010-10-07 9:55 ` Scot Becker @ 2010-10-08 10:24 ` Indraneel Majumdar 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Indraneel Majumdar @ 2010-10-08 10:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Scot Becker; +Cc: emacs-orgmode >> I couldn't get easylist to understand the >> \star symbol that orgmode uses. Do you know how to do that? > No. You might have seen the footnote in the easylist documentation > (on p. 2) which says: > > "You might not be happy with the symbols and maybe you'd like to use > another one, or simply have your favorite symbol > as default to avoid remembering such a cumbersome name as 'pilcrow'. > Here's a simple hack that does the job: select the > entire code of the package, and replace all occurrences of Ÿ (<<-- the > pilcrow) with your symbol. Make sure you won't use it in the list for > other purposes, though." > > I've not tried this, however. It would be nice if there were a dead > easy way to get easylist and org-mode to work well together, since the > two are very natural partners. Let me know if you can make this work. > I couldn't get either \star nor \ast to work so I'm just using \sharp now, and am simply replacing # (at beginning of the line) with a hook. I'm not sure which is the best hook to use though. I don't want to alter my orgmode buffer and also want the hook to run on orgmode syntax. So far, I've failed at this. org-export-first-hook runs in my orgmode buffer and alters the contents. org-export-latex-after-blockquotes-hook runs after latex export has already happened (ie \section etc have already been converted) Maybe there's a hook in the middle somewhere, but I couldn't find any documentation on it. >> And also to skip >> the first 3 stars in a level4 heading (if I want to retain latex's default >> top 3 levels)? > I've never actually gone all the way to making a document > easy-to-publish with Easylist. I've just manually converted > org-mode's stars to a character Easylist can understand, then manually > wrapped the whole thing in a LaTeX preamble. The ideal would be to > automate the process, perhaps by using org-babel and putting your > easylist sections in special code blocks. But I've not taken the time > to figure all that out. I do not even know what babel is, although I've heard it in a ton of different contexts. Considering what the word "babel" means, I'm not even sure if that is strange or not! > Failing that, I bet you could do a halfway hack with minimal amount of > manual work. For example (if I understand you correctly), you could > make an org document like this: > > * Regular org heading > ** Subheading > ** Here's a third-level heading > STARTLIST > **** My first thesis, which is longer and wordier than it probably should be. > ***** Of course it's nothing compared to the length of its supporting arguments > ***** Both of them > **** Here is my second thesis, as convincing as the first > ENDLIST > > Org-mode will let you do all of that, just fine. Then either > manually, or with a temporary latex export hook, do something like > this: > > replace STARTLIST with \begin{easylist} and ENDLIST with \end{easylist} > replace '**** ' with '& ' and '***** ' with'&& ' and ****** ' with'&&& ', etc. > > > If you do it in an export hook, I think you'd want to do it in one > that runs before everything else. That way org-mode will leave > everthing in your easylist environment alone. What that will do to > quotation marks and /emphasis/ I don't know. > This is exactly what I want to do, but which export hook to use? Something that will not modify my original buffer and also understand regexp that I can base on what was originally in my buffer. So instead of searching for \paragraph, I can search for "**** ", but I want to keep "**** " in my original org buffer. Indraneel > This should leave you with an easylist which starts at level '1', in a > document which uses org's header levels 1-3 in the normal latex way. > Is that what you want? > > Make sure in the preamble, you have \usepackage[ampersand]{easylist} > > Let me know if you need help figuring any of this out in detail. > That's just a rough sketch. > > Cheers, > > Scot > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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