* markup for small caps ? @ 2010-10-31 14:37 Sébastien Mengin 2010-10-31 16:11 ` Thomas S. Dye 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Sébastien Mengin @ 2010-10-31 14:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Hi, I was wondering if a marker was available for smallcaps? Thanks in advance, -- Sébastien Mengin Édition et logiciels libres < Mise en page avec LaTeX > http://edilibre.net tél. : 06 84 88 49 17 jid. : sebastien-mengin@jabber.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: markup for small caps ? 2010-10-31 14:37 markup for small caps ? Sébastien Mengin @ 2010-10-31 16:11 ` Thomas S. Dye 2010-10-31 16:45 ` Sébastien Mengin 2010-10-31 17:43 ` Dan Davison 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2010-10-31 16:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sébastien Mengin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 793 bytes --] Aloha Sebastien, Arbitrary markup is possible, see http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-export.php#sec-12 Using this approach [[latex:textsc][My small caps]] would export to LaTeX as \textsc{My small caps}. HTH, Tom On Oct 31, 2010, at 4:37 AM, Sébastien Mengin wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if a marker was available for smallcaps? > > Thanks in advance, > -- > Sébastien Mengin > Édition et logiciels libres > < Mise en page avec LaTeX > > http://edilibre.net > tél. : 06 84 88 49 17 > jid. : sebastien-mengin@jabber.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1379 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: markup for small caps ? 2010-10-31 16:11 ` Thomas S. Dye @ 2010-10-31 16:45 ` Sébastien Mengin 2010-10-31 17:05 ` Bernt Hansen 2010-10-31 17:43 ` Dan Davison 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Sébastien Mengin @ 2010-10-31 16:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Le dim. 31/10/10 (06:11:20 -1000), Thomas S. Dye a écrit : > Aloha Sebastien, > > Arbitrary markup is possible, see http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-export.php#sec-12 > > Using this approach [[latex:textsc][My small caps]] would export to > LaTeX as \textsc{My small caps}. Thanks a lot for your answer. Here, pasting the code from the above link, I get: \hyperref[latex:textsc]{My small caps} I think I'd like to keep going with the customized markup I mentionned in another question posted earlier today : ¶text¶, that would export "text" in small-caps in both html and latex. \bye -- Sébastien Mengin Édition et logiciels libres < Mise en page avec LaTeX > http://edilibre.net tél. : 06 84 88 49 17 jid. : sebastien-mengin@jabber.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: markup for small caps ? 2010-10-31 16:45 ` Sébastien Mengin @ 2010-10-31 17:05 ` Bernt Hansen 2010-11-01 12:22 ` Sébastien Mengin 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Bernt Hansen @ 2010-10-31 17:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sébastien Mengin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Sébastien Mengin <sebastien-mengin@edilibre.net> writes: > Le dim. 31/10/10 (06:11:20 -1000), Thomas S. Dye a écrit : >> Aloha Sebastien, >> >> Arbitrary markup is possible, see http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-export.php#sec-12 >> >> Using this approach [[latex:textsc][My small caps]] would export to >> LaTeX as \textsc{My small caps}. > > Thanks a lot for your answer. > Here, pasting the code from the above link, I get: > > \hyperref[latex:textsc]{My small caps} > > I think I'd like to keep going with the customized markup I mentionned > in another question posted earlier today : ¶text¶, that would export I think these markup characters are inconvenient to enter (how do I generate those?) Wouldn't it be better to pick something easier to type on a standard keyboard? Maybe =v=text=v= or something else. We already have a =text= markup so maybe =v= isn't a good choice either. -Bernt > "text" in small-caps in both html and latex. > > \bye ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: markup for small caps ? 2010-10-31 17:05 ` Bernt Hansen @ 2010-11-01 12:22 ` Sébastien Mengin 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Sébastien Mengin @ 2010-11-01 12:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Le dim. 31/10/10 (01:05:02 -0400), Bernt Hansen a écrit : > Sébastien Mengin <sebastien-mengin@edilibre.net> writes: > > I think I'd like to keep going with the customized markup I mentionned > > in another question posted earlier today : ¶text¶, that would export > > I think these markup characters are inconvenient to enter (how do I > generate those?) Wouldn't it be better to pick something easier to type > on a standard keyboard? Maybe =v=text=v= or something else. We already > have a =text= markup so maybe =v= isn't a good choice either. I don't know either. I chose ¶ here because I wanted to avoid the risk of using an already existing symbol, but it could be anything, in fact. -- Sébastien Mengin Édition et logiciels libres < Mise en page avec LaTeX > http://edilibre.net tél. : 06 84 88 49 17 jid. : sebastien-mengin@jabber.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: markup for small caps ? 2010-10-31 16:11 ` Thomas S. Dye 2010-10-31 16:45 ` Sébastien Mengin @ 2010-10-31 17:43 ` Dan Davison 2010-10-31 19:08 ` Thomas S. Dye 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Dan Davison @ 2010-10-31 17:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Thomas S. Dye; +Cc: Sébastien Mengin, emacs-orgmode "Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.com> writes: > Aloha Sebastien, > > Arbitrary markup is possible, see http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-export.php#sec-12 > > Using this approach [[latex:textsc][My small caps]] would export to > LaTeX as \textsc{My small caps}. In the Org-buffer I see "My small caps" with a special underlined face. This is standard for links with a non-missing display part, but in the case of non-standard link types such as this I'm not sure it's helpful. I think I'd like to see in my Org buffer what markup is being applied.[1] (Related question -- is there a command I can enter with point on a link which displays the raw text of the link? (temporarily remove overlays at point?)) Thanks, Dan Footnotes: [1] Maybe add an optional display argument to org-add-link-type which would be a function used by the org-activate-*-link function?? > > HTH, > Tom > > On Oct 31, 2010, at 4:37 AM, Sébastien Mengin wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I was wondering if a marker was available for smallcaps? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> -- >> Sébastien Mengin >> Édition et logiciels libres >> < Mise en page avec LaTeX > >> http://edilibre.net >> tél. : 06 84 88 49 17 >> jid. : sebastien-mengin@jabber.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: markup for small caps ? 2010-10-31 17:43 ` Dan Davison @ 2010-10-31 19:08 ` Thomas S. Dye 2010-10-31 19:53 ` Dan Davison 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2010-10-31 19:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dan Davison; +Cc: Sébastien Mengin, emacs-orgmode On Oct 31, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Dan Davison wrote: > "Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.com> writes: > >> Aloha Sebastien, >> >> Arbitrary markup is possible, see http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-export.php#sec-12 >> >> Using this approach [[latex:textsc][My small caps]] would export to >> LaTeX as \textsc{My small caps}. > > In the Org-buffer I see "My small caps" with a special underlined > face. This is standard for links with a non-missing display part, > but in > the case of non-standard link types such as this I'm not sure it's > helpful. I think I'd like to see in my Org buffer what markup is being > applied.[1] > > (Related question -- is there a command I can enter with point on a > link > which displays the raw text of the link? (temporarily remove > overlays at > point?)) > > Thanks, > > Dan > > > Footnotes: > [1] Maybe add an optional display argument to org-add-link-type > which would be a function used by the org-activate-*-link function?? > Hi Dan, I agree that it would be good to generalize the Org-mode link syntax so that it doesn't assume a link representation in the Org-mode buffer and in HTML export. If a link representation was one possibility among others, then this syntax would be that much more useful. As for showing small caps, say, in the Org-mode buffer, I agree that this would be nice in this instance. Note, however, that this is an instance of direct style markup and not semantic markup. In the more general case, the syntax applies semantic markup that is recognized by a LaTeX class file, a CSS stylesheet, etc., which is responsible for seeing that the marked up content looks right. IIUC, your suggestion of an optional display argument would be the Org-mode equivalent of the class file/stylesheet. It would be really great if this argument accepted a function that relied on an Org-mode stylesheet that the user could customize to support arbitrary semantic elements. Perhaps this is already possible, but I haven't figured it out yet. I don't know the answer to your related question. I just use literal links for a while when I need them, then set them back to descriptive links when I'm done. I agree that being able to do this on a link by link basis would be useful. All the best, Tom > >> >> HTH, >> Tom >> >> On Oct 31, 2010, at 4:37 AM, Sébastien Mengin wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was wondering if a marker was available for smallcaps? >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> -- >>> Sébastien Mengin >>> Édition et logiciels libres >>> < Mise en page avec LaTeX > >>> http://edilibre.net >>> tél. : 06 84 88 49 17 >>> jid. : sebastien-mengin@jabber.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: markup for small caps ? 2010-10-31 19:08 ` Thomas S. Dye @ 2010-10-31 19:53 ` Dan Davison 2010-10-31 20:13 ` Thomas S. Dye 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Dan Davison @ 2010-10-31 19:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Thomas S. Dye; +Cc: Sébastien Mengin, emacs-orgmode "Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.com> writes: > On Oct 31, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Dan Davison wrote: > >> "Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.com> writes: >> >>> Aloha Sebastien, >>> >>> Arbitrary markup is possible, see http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-export.php#sec-12 >>> >>> Using this approach [[latex:textsc][My small caps]] would export to >>> LaTeX as \textsc{My small caps}. >> >> In the Org-buffer I see "My small caps" with a special underlined >> face. This is standard for links with a non-missing display part, >> but in >> the case of non-standard link types such as this I'm not sure it's >> helpful. I think I'd like to see in my Org buffer what markup is being >> applied.[1] >> >> (Related question -- is there a command I can enter with point on a >> link >> which displays the raw text of the link? (temporarily remove >> overlays at >> point?)) >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dan >> >> >> Footnotes: >> [1] Maybe add an optional display argument to org-add-link-type >> which would be a function used by the org-activate-*-link function?? >> > > Hi Dan, > > I agree that it would be good to generalize the Org-mode link syntax > so that it doesn't assume a link representation in the Org-mode buffer > and in HTML export. If a link representation was one possibility > among others, then this syntax would be that much more useful. > > As for showing small caps, say, in the Org-mode buffer, I agree that > this would be nice in this instance. Hi Tom, Sorry, I didn't express myself clearly. I didn't mean that I'd like to see small caps in the org buffer. What I meant is that I'd prefer to see something like [[latex:textsc][My small caps]], as opposed to it all magically being covered up with an overlay displaying "My small caps". With the overlay, I've no idea that it is a special markup, and not some form of link. Dan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: markup for small caps ? 2010-10-31 19:53 ` Dan Davison @ 2010-10-31 20:13 ` Thomas S. Dye 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2010-10-31 20:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dan Davison; +Cc: Sébastien Mengin, emacs-orgmode On Oct 31, 2010, at 9:53 AM, Dan Davison wrote: > "Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.com> writes: > >> On Oct 31, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Dan Davison wrote: >> >>> "Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.com> writes: >>> >>>> Aloha Sebastien, >>>> >>>> Arbitrary markup is possible, see http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-latex-export.php#sec-12 >>>> >>>> Using this approach [[latex:textsc][My small caps]] would export to >>>> LaTeX as \textsc{My small caps}. >>> >>> In the Org-buffer I see "My small caps" with a special underlined >>> face. This is standard for links with a non-missing display part, >>> but in >>> the case of non-standard link types such as this I'm not sure it's >>> helpful. I think I'd like to see in my Org buffer what markup is >>> being >>> applied.[1] >>> >>> (Related question -- is there a command I can enter with point on a >>> link >>> which displays the raw text of the link? (temporarily remove >>> overlays at >>> point?)) >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> >>> Footnotes: >>> [1] Maybe add an optional display argument to org-add-link-type >>> which would be a function used by the org-activate-*-link function?? >>> >> >> Hi Dan, >> >> I agree that it would be good to generalize the Org-mode link syntax >> so that it doesn't assume a link representation in the Org-mode >> buffer >> and in HTML export. If a link representation was one possibility >> among others, then this syntax would be that much more useful. >> >> As for showing small caps, say, in the Org-mode buffer, I agree that >> this would be nice in this instance. > > Hi Tom, > > Sorry, I didn't express myself clearly. I didn't mean that I'd like to > see small caps in the org buffer. What I meant is that I'd prefer to > see > something like [[latex:textsc][My small caps]], as opposed to it all > magically being covered up with an overlay displaying "My small > caps". With the overlay, I've no idea that it is a special markup, and > not some form of link. > > Dan Hi Dan, I'm with you on this. IMO, it would be good to generalize the Org- mode link syntax so that it doesn't assume a link representation in the Org-mode buffer and in HTML export. With the Org-mode stylesheet, the OP could have small caps if wanted and you could have [[latex:textsc][My small caps]]. All the best, Tom ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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