Re: searchable refcard?

From: Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>
To: "Alan E. Davis" <lngndvs@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org,
	Nathaniel Cunningham <nathaniel.cunningham@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: searchable refcard?
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:55:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <395BE353-F89F-413A-8045-210F885864F3@uva.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7bef1f890811270417s49258b58i477968442799c609@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi Alan,

the refcard is done by hand, a lot of fiddling goes into
fitting all this info on two pages.  And  don't want to
keep two versions.

That said, my refcard is incomplete due to space constraints, and it  
may be worth to do a better one, searchable, in Org.  Maybe you would  
like to maintain it?

This is little work, you can just look at the changes in the  
orgcard.tex file - basically it never changes, or hardly ever.

- Carsten

I
On Nov 27, 2008, at 1:17 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote:

> I hope I don't make a nuisance of myself by responding to this.  I  
> posted at some earlier date about my idea of making an org-help file  
> "help.org" that I can call up with a keystroke.  This is an  
> extension of the texinfo concept, perhaps, or a subset of it.
>
> I think this would best be done in texinfo, and generate a rough  
> equivalent of the refcard's contents (keybindings reference and  
> brief notes), separate from the org mode info document.   I looked  
> at texinfo, and even though I can write fairly sophisticated  
> material in LaTeX, texinfo looks daunting enough to discourage me  
> from trying.
>
> For now, I have borrowed the idea of publishing a text refcard, but  
> in org-mode.  The reference card is then folded in outline format.   
> I have been doing the converstion by hand from orgcard.tex, by using  
> the untex command to generate a rough text file, and then taking  
> several passes through the file to setup headlines and format the  
> lines.  This can all be done in one or two steps, with a short elisp  
> function, but I haven't had the time to brush up on elisp (I notice  
> it's a moving target, as well).
>
> The upshot for now may be a kludge, but it's extremeliy useful on a  
> day to day basis.  See help.org, attached.  No warantees implied.
>
> That brought me to the question of how is the refcard written and  
> kept up to date?  Possibly from other files in the org repository?   
> Or is it separately written up each time?  It is usually up to date  
> with the newest version of org-mode, at least insofar as the version  
> number.
>
> With apologies,
>
> Alan
>
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 8:07 PM, Sebastian Rose  
> <sebastian_rose@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi Nathaniel,
>
>
> I don't know what causes this trouble, but I faced this sometimes with
> LaTeX generated PDFs. Might be an encoding problem or what ever.
>
>
> The LaTeX sources are available at repo.or.cz, as is the entire Org- 
> mode
> package:
>
> http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git?a=blob;f=doc/orgcard.tex;h=8e2cbe0d76f9b71997c106982911b144ed5eff2f;hb=HEAD
>
>
> Regards,
>
>   Sebastian
>
>
> "Nathaniel Cunningham" <nathaniel.cunningham@gmail.com> writes:
> > Greetings,
> > I can't search the PDF version of the org-mode refcard (in a  
> couple of
> > different apps on Mac OS X).  I can match single-character  
> strings, and it
> > appears that my reader apps see spaces between e v e r y s i n g l  
> e c h a r
> > a c t e r, which causes my trouble.  (Not a typical problem I have  
> with
> > these apps.)
> >
> > Is a more search-friendly version, or the (presumably LaTeX)  
> source, of the
> > refcard available?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Nathaniel
> > [please include me  ( nathaniel.cunningham@gmail.com ) on any  
> replies, as
> > I'm not a member of this list]
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