From: Carsten Dominik <dominik@uva.nl>
To: Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de>
Cc: emacs-orgmode emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Defaults for Org variables
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:55:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2ED271B9-9CBF-4E10-A3C1-A77E7B4ED5F6@uva.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vdjjf1uc.fsf@gmx.de>
On Sep 16, 2009, at 2:36 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote:
> Carsten Dominik <dominik@uva.nl> writes:
>> In a different thread, Sebastian Rose writes:
>>
>>> Footnotes:
>>>
>>> [1] We should discuss this in an extra thread: make log-into-
>>> drawer and
>>> clocking the default and just have it turned on (is it the
>>> default??). It's sooo useful. And I'm sure, Alice would simply
>>> enjoy it (without any customization !!!).
>>
>> I am always open to discuss new defaults for variables. However,
>> let me tell you my motivation for this specific case.
>>
>> While I agree that it is extremely useful to get notes and clocking
>> into drawers, this is a feature that is quite magical for a new
>> user and maybe hard to understand. I mean, you clock in an nothing
>> happens - sort of. This is why I felt it is better to just have
>> this stuff plainly visible in the buffer when Org comes out of
>> the box.
>
> Hmm - I see.
>
> You're talking about drawers only. Is the clocking feature on by
> default? I still have this function in my setup:
>
>
> (defun sr-org-todo-state-toggled()
> "Start the clock, if the state of a todo item changes to 'STARTED'."
> (if(string= "STARTED" state)
> (org-clock-in)
> (org-clock-out-if-current)))
>
> (setq org-after-todo-state-change-hook 'sr-org-todo-state-toggled)
I don't think this can be the default, I am not sure all people
would use it like this. Bernt, for example, has many STARTED entries
around at any time.
>
>
> There is some guidance, actually more than most of the other modes
> provide. The user can access the clocked task (and clock out) simply
> through the modeline menu. That modeline entry seems to be on by
> default, as I can't find anything about it in my setup.
>
> Once clocked in, the user is prompted, if she wants to clock out when
> exiting Emacs.
>
>
> I have to admit, that I'm not aware of the defaults anymore (didn't
> use
> them since a year or so). I'll have to create another user on my
> system,
> to check :)
Or just call org-submit-bug-report which will show you all your non-
default
settings, including hooks.
- Carsten
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-16 15:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-16 6:39 Defaults for Org variables Carsten Dominik
2009-09-16 13:36 ` Sebastian Rose
2009-09-16 15:55 ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2009-09-16 23:06 ` Sebastian Rose
2009-09-17 6:37 ` Carsten Dominik
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