* Seeking advice on structuring my org-mode file
@ 2013-05-22 18:43 Marcin Borkowski
2013-05-22 22:10 ` Matt Lundin
2013-05-26 9:49 ` Karl Voit
0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Marcin Borkowski @ 2013-05-22 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Org-mode mailing list
Hi all,
I have an Org-mode file with notes concerning a large project connected
with teaching at my university. One of the headlines is dedicated to
one particular course, where I am part of a group developing a concept
of this course. So, one subheadline is devoted to that. Yet another
(subsub)headline is a list if my proposals of things that should be
covered during that course, and now it needs 3 more levels down.
Summing it up: I have 5 levels of headlines and now I need a sixth
one. So, my question is: what are good practices of other Org-moders?
Do you push such a monster to an external file and just include a link
to it? Or do you just live with 6-level structure (which is a bit
cumbersome, since I sometimes want to copy a part of this document to
an email)? Or maybe there's yet another way of handling this?
Best,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Adam Mickiewicz University
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* Re: Seeking advice on structuring my org-mode file
2013-05-22 18:43 Seeking advice on structuring my org-mode file Marcin Borkowski
@ 2013-05-22 22:10 ` Matt Lundin
2013-05-23 11:57 ` Julian M. Burgos
2013-05-26 9:49 ` Karl Voit
1 sibling, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Matt Lundin @ 2013-05-22 22:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marcin Borkowski; +Cc: Org-mode mailing list
Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> writes:
> I have an Org-mode file with notes concerning a large project connected
> with teaching at my university. One of the headlines is dedicated to
> one particular course, where I am part of a group developing a concept
> of this course. So, one subheadline is devoted to that. Yet another
> (subsub)headline is a list if my proposals of things that should be
> covered during that course, and now it needs 3 more levels down.
> Summing it up: I have 5 levels of headlines and now I need a sixth
> one. So, my question is: what are good practices of other Org-moders?
> Do you push such a monster to an external file and just include a link
> to it?
If a file grows to large, I simply create a new one. In this instance, I
would recommend creating a separate file for each course.
Below you'll find a very hackish helper function that I use to generate
a new file from a headline. It leaves a link to the new file in the
original location.
Best,
Matt
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(defun my-org-file-from-headline (file)
(interactive
(list
(completing-read "File: "
(mapcar 'file-name-nondirectory
(file-expand-wildcards "~/org/*.org"))
nil nil)))
(unless (string-match "\\.org$" file)
(error "Not an org file"))
(save-excursion
(beginning-of-line)
(unless (org-at-heading-p)
(error "Not on a headline")))
(let* ((exists (file-exists-p file))
(ftags (append
(list (file-name-sans-extension file))
(mapcar 'substring-no-properties org-file-tags)))
(headline (nth 4 (org-heading-components)))
(org-archive-reversed-order t)
(org-archive-location (concat file "::"))
(org-archive-save-context-info nil))
(org-archive-subtree)
(save-excursion (insert "* [[file:" file "][" file "]] - " headline "\n"))
(find-file file)
(goto-char (point-min))
(save-excursion
(if (re-search-forward "#\\+FILETAGS:\\(.*\\)$" nil t)
(progn
(save-match-data
(setq ftags
(mapconcat 'identity
(org-uniquify
(append ftags
(split-string
(substring-no-properties
(match-string 1))))) " ")))
(replace-match (concat "#+FILETAGS: " ftags)))
(insert "#+FILETAGS: " (mapconcat 'identity ftags " ") "\n"))
(goto-char (point-min))
(unless (re-search-forward "#\\+CATEGORY:\\(.*\\)$" nil t)
(insert "#+CATEGORY: " (file-name-sans-extension file) "\n"))
(goto-char (point-min))
(when (re-search-forward "^Archived entries from file.+\n" nil t)
(replace-match ""))))
(write-file file))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
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2013-05-22 22:10 ` Matt Lundin
@ 2013-05-23 11:57 ` Julian M. Burgos
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Julian M. Burgos @ 2013-05-23 11:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matt Lundin; +Cc: Org-mode mailing list, Marcin Borkowski
Matt, this is very useful! I agree with you, I also tend to create
several org-mode files for a project that is becoming too large. For
example, I keep a separate org-file for each paper or report, another
with notes, another with analysis (with R code blocks), etc.
One issue is that I use lots of TODO statemens in my files, and when
org-mode files multiply it starts to become difficult to keep the agenda
files list updated. To do this I use this snippet that I found
somewhere (I do not remember exactly where). This includes all
org-files in a specific directory (in my case my "Documents" directory)
in the agenda files list.
#+begin_src lisp
;;------------------------------------------------------------------------------
;; Load org agenda files
;;------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; Do not add agenda files "by hand"
(add-hook 'org-mode-hook
(lambda ()
(org-defkey org-mode-map "\C-c[" 'undefined)
(org-defkey org-mode-map "\C-c]" 'undefined))
'append)
(load-library "find-lisp")
(add-hook 'org-agenda-mode-hook (lambda ()
(setq org-agenda-files
(find-lisp-find-files "/home/julian/Documents" "\.org$"))
))
#+end_src
With this I can create org-files to my heart's content and I know that
all TODOs statements will show up in the agenda.
All the best,
Julian
--
Julian Mariano Burgos, PhD
Hafrannsóknastofnunin/Marine Research Institute
Skúlagata 4, 121 Reykjavík, Iceland
Sími/Telephone : +354-5752037
Bréfsími/Telefax: +354-5752001
Netfang/Email: julian@hafro.is
Matt Lundin writes:
> Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> writes:
>
>> I have an Org-mode file with notes concerning a large project connected
>> with teaching at my university. One of the headlines is dedicated to
>> one particular course, where I am part of a group developing a concept
>> of this course. So, one subheadline is devoted to that. Yet another
>> (subsub)headline is a list if my proposals of things that should be
>> covered during that course, and now it needs 3 more levels down.
>> Summing it up: I have 5 levels of headlines and now I need a sixth
>> one. So, my question is: what are good practices of other Org-moders?
>> Do you push such a monster to an external file and just include a link
>> to it?
>
> If a file grows to large, I simply create a new one. In this instance, I
> would recommend creating a separate file for each course.
>
> Below you'll find a very hackish helper function that I use to generate
> a new file from a headline. It leaves a link to the new file in the
> original location.
>
> Best,
> Matt
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> (defun my-org-file-from-headline (file)
> (interactive
> (list
> (completing-read "File: "
> (mapcar 'file-name-nondirectory
> (file-expand-wildcards "~/org/*.org"))
> nil nil)))
> (unless (string-match "\\.org$" file)
> (error "Not an org file"))
> (save-excursion
> (beginning-of-line)
> (unless (org-at-heading-p)
> (error "Not on a headline")))
> (let* ((exists (file-exists-p file))
> (ftags (append
> (list (file-name-sans-extension file))
> (mapcar 'substring-no-properties org-file-tags)))
> (headline (nth 4 (org-heading-components)))
> (org-archive-reversed-order t)
> (org-archive-location (concat file "::"))
> (org-archive-save-context-info nil))
> (org-archive-subtree)
> (save-excursion (insert "* [[file:" file "][" file "]] - " headline "\n"))
> (find-file file)
> (goto-char (point-min))
> (save-excursion
> (if (re-search-forward "#\\+FILETAGS:\\(.*\\)$" nil t)
> (progn
> (save-match-data
> (setq ftags
> (mapconcat 'identity
> (org-uniquify
> (append ftags
> (split-string
> (substring-no-properties
> (match-string 1))))) " ")))
> (replace-match (concat "#+FILETAGS: " ftags)))
> (insert "#+FILETAGS: " (mapconcat 'identity ftags " ") "\n"))
> (goto-char (point-min))
> (unless (re-search-forward "#\\+CATEGORY:\\(.*\\)$" nil t)
> (insert "#+CATEGORY: " (file-name-sans-extension file) "\n"))
> (goto-char (point-min))
> (when (re-search-forward "^Archived entries from file.+\n" nil t)
> (replace-match ""))))
> (write-file file))
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
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* Re: Seeking advice on structuring my org-mode file
2013-05-22 18:43 Seeking advice on structuring my org-mode file Marcin Borkowski
2013-05-22 22:10 ` Matt Lundin
@ 2013-05-26 9:49 ` Karl Voit
1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Karl Voit @ 2013-05-26 9:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
* Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> wrote:
> Hi all,
Hi!
> I have an Org-mode file with notes concerning a large project connected
> with teaching at my university. One of the headlines is dedicated to
> one particular course, where I am part of a group developing a concept
> of this course. So, one subheadline is devoted to that. Yet another
> (subsub)headline is a list if my proposals of things that should be
> covered during that course, and now it needs 3 more levels down.
> Summing it up: I have 5 levels of headlines and now I need a sixth
> one. So, my question is: what are good practices of other Org-moders?
> Do you push such a monster to an external file and just include a link
> to it? Or do you just live with 6-level structure (which is a bit
> cumbersome, since I sometimes want to copy a part of this document to
> an email)? Or maybe there's yet another way of handling this?
So I assume you've got this:
- project.org
- courseX
- covered topics (unsure about this one; not necessary)
- topic 1
- task related to topic 1
Either you are OK with this level of headings (I would not care) or
you have many different possibilities.
1. Additional Org-mode file(s): see other answers
2. Usage of flat hierarchy
- project.org
- non-educational
- courseX
- courseX notes
3. Usage of tags
- project.org
- X :non-educational:
- course material :courseX:
- course topics :courseX:
- course notes :courseX:
Or you can use a combination of these methods or additional methods
which do not come to my mind for now.
--
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> get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs <
https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github
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