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From: Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Semantics, Tagging, File systems, Tools, tagstore (was: [Orgmode] Re: contact management in org-mode?)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 00:24:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2012-08-14T00-10-37@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20120810054853.GD31849@cardamom.adamsinfoserv.com

* Russell Adams <RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.Com> wrote:
>
> On the semantic note, I found a utility called tmsu recently
> (http://tmsu.org/) which allows semantic tagging of files. There was a
> cool looking filesystem called Tagsistant too, but it unfortunately
> appears abandoned.

I was doing research for four years and I am writing a dissertation
exactly about this topic. For my research, I created [1]. From my
perspective: there is nothing practical out there to tag files on
the file system layer.

There were "Semantic File System", "TagFS", "SemFS", and many more.
All of them either abandoned or never made it to stable. 

Nepomuk/KDE seems to be the most promising but I am not up to date
on Nepomuk any more.

For OS X there are some add-ons which more or less try to integrate
into the system. But chances are high that Apple will change from
HFS+ to probably ZFS. Apple officially never supported the streams
of HFS+ and therefore I am afraid, any tags stored there will get
lost some day.

Microsoft and Google do not want to support multi-classification. I
was talking to several guys on conferences. Apple never shows up.

tagstore [1] works on all platforms but is only scalable up to a few
thousand items (files or folders) because of inode limit. If you are
using tagstore on a file system with no inode limit, it might be a
cool solution for you as well.

All in all: no solution that satisfies everybody. Yet.

My solution for now: many things are organized in Org-mode where I
can link and tag things. Memacs I do like *very* much for this
purpose: [2]

If you need something for tagging which is compatible with *any*
application out there and you do not need more than a few thousand
items, tagstore should be fine as well. For example for movies it
should be cool in any case.

If you need more infos, you can wait for my PhD to be finished
(2012-11). It should contain all relevant information or at least a
link to other documents that contain the answer to your questions
related to the topic of retrieving files using navigation.

  1. http://tagstore.org
  2. https://github.com/novoid/Memacs

PS: Sorry for the shameless plug but you asked for it :-)

-- 
Karl Voit

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-13 22:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-07  0:17 contact management in org-mode? Lindsay Todd
2009-10-07  2:21 ` Maurizio Vitale
2009-10-07  4:16   ` Bernt Hansen
2009-10-25  2:34     ` Russell Adams
2009-10-25  6:04       ` Charles Philip Chan
2009-10-25 13:51         ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2009-10-25 14:14           ` Charles Philip Chan
2009-10-25 14:18           ` Richard Riley
2009-10-25 14:22           ` Russell Adams
2009-10-29  7:58       ` Eric S Fraga, Eric S Fraga
2009-10-29 15:46         ` Gregory J. Grubbs
2009-10-29 16:00           ` Richard Riley
2009-10-29 17:36             ` Russell Adams
2009-10-29 20:00               ` Alan E. Davis
2009-10-29 22:25                 ` Eric S Fraga
2009-10-30  8:48                 ` Uwe Jochum
2009-10-31  3:10                   ` Russell Adams
2009-10-31  3:26                     ` Russell Adams
2009-10-31 16:38                       ` Gregory J. Grubbs
2009-11-20 14:32                       ` Russell Adams
2012-07-19 11:10                         ` [Orgmode] " Russell Adams
2012-07-20  0:57                           ` Karl Voit
2012-08-08 12:04                           ` Thomas Koch
2012-08-08 12:14                             ` Bastien
2012-08-09 11:31                             ` Jose E. Marchesi
2012-08-10  5:48                             ` Russell Adams
2012-08-13 22:24                               ` Karl Voit [this message]
2012-08-09 12:04                           ` Sriram Karra
2009-11-02 10:37                     ` Eric S Fraga, Eric S Fraga
2009-11-08  5:59                     ` Ben Finney
2009-11-08 14:52                       ` Matt Lundin
2009-11-08 22:22                         ` Sebastian Rose
2009-11-11 13:19                           ` Sebastian Rose
2009-11-09  6:41                         ` Gour
2009-11-15 20:50                         ` Sean Sieger
2009-10-31 21:54                   ` Shelagh Manton
2009-10-08 17:13 ` Sean Sieger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-11-21 21:15 Babel source blocks Russell Adams
2012-03-19 15:01 table spreadsheet problem Martin Halder
2012-03-19 15:32 ` Russell Adams
2012-03-19 15:45   ` Martin Halder
2012-03-19 15:48     ` Russell Adams
2012-03-15 17:45 Latex Listings & Floats Russell Adams
2012-03-15 20:33 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-07-24  8:00 Table formula to convert hex to dec Russell Adams
2011-07-24  9:52 ` Michael Brand
2011-07-24 16:39   ` Michael Brand
2011-02-27  1:36 Startup page Matthew Sauer
2011-02-27  2:57 ` Dan Davison
2011-02-28 20:35   ` Eric S Fraga
2011-02-27 10:15 ` Bastien
2011-02-27 14:03   ` Christian Mandel
2011-02-28 11:51 ` Konrad Hinsen
2011-03-11  5:59   ` Ido Magal
2011-03-11  7:56     ` Rainer M Krug
     [not found]       ` <improv.philosophy@gmail.com>
2011-03-06  2:49         ` Bug: Org-Contacts.el [7.4] U-SWEETSAUERPORT\Matthew Sauer
2011-03-06  4:47           ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-06 19:50             ` Matthew Sauer
2011-03-06 20:02               ` Matthew Sauer
2011-03-06 23:20                 ` Bastien
2011-03-07  1:26                   ` Matthew Sauer
2011-03-07 17:32                     ` Achim Gratz
2011-03-16 16:19       ` Re: [Orgmode] Startup page Matthew Sauer
2011-03-16 16:45         ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-17 10:34           ` Matthew Sauer
2011-03-17 10:52             ` Filippo A. Salustri
2011-03-17 22:17               ` Matthew Sauer
2011-03-17 22:48                 ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-18  0:03                   ` Filippo A. Salustri
2011-03-18  0:08                     ` Bastien
2011-03-18  0:22                       ` Matthew Sauer
2009-10-29 23:29 [OT] lisp func to write timestamp to buffer Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
2009-10-30  0:47 ` Russell Adams
2009-10-30  2:44 ` Nick Dokos
2009-10-30  2:53   ` Russell Adams
2009-09-08 20:41 Correct Way to Customize LaTeX Export? Peter Jones
2009-09-08 20:49 ` Russell Adams
     [not found]   ` <RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.Com>
2009-09-08 21:11     ` Nick Dokos
2009-10-30  3:17     ` [OT] lisp func to write timestamp to buffer Nick Dokos
2011-07-24 15:58     ` Table formula to convert hex to dec Nick Dokos
2012-01-25 17:34     ` ICS import? Russell Adams
2012-01-25 17:50     ` Nick Dokos
     [not found]       ` <CALRk1sZc5JL_zY8Xnt+XDZfgqMmtQb4XXia4UmrP4f4sdOopCw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <3023.1327520270@alphaville>
     [not found]           ` <CALRk1sZ9YC9ftvB4wK84i4-68FF3kYPwhuYm9n=iwvsKerRMRQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <4180.1327526628@alphaville>
2012-01-25 22:26               ` Matthew Sauer
2012-01-25 23:51                 ` Russell Adams
2012-01-26  0:03                   ` Arun Persaud
2012-01-26  0:21                   ` Nick Dokos
2012-01-26  0:58                     ` Russell Adams
2012-03-15 19:56     ` Latex Listings & Floats Nick Dokos
2012-03-19 15:56     ` table spreadsheet problem Nick Dokos
2012-03-19 16:05       ` Russell Adams
2012-03-19 16:25       ` Martin Halder
2012-03-19 17:42     ` Nick Dokos
2012-03-19 17:54       ` Russell Adams
2012-03-19 18:01         ` Nick Dokos
2012-03-19 18:21           ` Russell Adams
2012-05-15  2:57     ` ICS import? Nick Dokos
2012-05-15  3:03       ` Nick Dokos
2012-08-10  6:41     ` [Orgmode] Re: contact management in org-mode? Nick Dokos
2012-08-10 11:40       ` Sriram Karra
2012-08-10 14:03         ` Nick Dokos
2012-11-21 22:06     ` Babel source blocks Nick Dokos
2012-11-21 22:15       ` Russell Adams
2012-11-21 22:44     ` Nick Dokos
2012-11-21 22:53       ` Russell Adams

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