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From: Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Re: contact management in org-mode?
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 02:57:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2012-07-20T02-47-22@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20120719111050.GO27588@cardamom.adamsinfoserv.com

Hi Russell!

* Russell Adams <RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.Com> wrote:
>
> First, I've found myself very lax updating my Contacts.org file. 

This is no technical issue :-)

> With a moderately large contact file column mode goes so slowly I
> find myself reluctant to use it. Thus my contact list is now
> significantly out of date despite my successful integration with
> mutt.

I do not use column mode (yet). So far I am using the inevitable
yasnippet templates to create an entry and manually filling out the
properties.

> Another issue with column view is that I can't make the first column
> (ie: Name!) sticky, so if I scroll right while filling in fields I
> have no idea who I'm working on. Editing individual fields in the
> property drawer is moderately ok.
>
> The final killer is lack of sync. 

Oh this is also something which I could not resolve yet.

Although I do think that given the fact that I am OK with a working
export mechanism (instead of 2-way sync), it should not be that
complicated to write a short tool that exports names, email
addresses and phone numbers (I really do not want more information
than these on my phone) in a format that Google can import.

Not a very good solution but I was thinking about this one for
myself.

> I have lbdb capturing incoming email addresses, and I find I use
> it constantly without thinking about it. I typically get contact
> information in signature lines with my customers and I've found
> myself doing fast searching in mutt and using a recent email
> instead of using Contacts.org. No sync with my Google account
> means my phone now has an independent contact list again.

I also love mutt and lbdb. Since I started to maintain my contacts
in Org-mode and not in .mutt_aliases and lbdb can query my
contacts.org, I am pretty happy with this situation.

Loose contacts get into my system via lbdb and close contacts get
their Org-mode entry.

> I did see someone created a org-contacts.el based on the format, but
> their site is now offline.
>
> So after a three year experiment, I think I can say my org-mode
> contact management has failed.

This is it?

What about having the possibility to use references to contacts
within Org-mode? I use them all the time.

What about organizing contacts in a hierarchy like family trees. I
can not resemble any other contact manager where it is that easy as
in Org-mode.

What about the possibility to mix TODOs and events with
contact? I love the fact that I can add appointments with my dentist
below his contact-headline ... and add a TODO if I have to transfer
him money or something like that.

These are all features that lets me accept missing sync features and
so forth.

> Thus I pose the question: What is a valid contact manager for a
> console-mode user with sync, fast searching and update?

Anyway, I am curious what other options are out there :-)

-- 
Karl Voit

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-20  0:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-07  0:17 contact management in org-mode? Lindsay Todd
2009-10-07  2:21 ` Maurizio Vitale
2009-10-07  4:16   ` Bernt Hansen
2009-10-25  2:34     ` Russell Adams
2009-10-25  6:04       ` Charles Philip Chan
2009-10-25 13:51         ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2009-10-25 14:14           ` Charles Philip Chan
2009-10-25 14:18           ` Richard Riley
2009-10-25 14:22           ` Russell Adams
2009-10-29  7:58       ` Eric S Fraga, Eric S Fraga
2009-10-29 15:46         ` Gregory J. Grubbs
2009-10-29 16:00           ` Richard Riley
2009-10-29 17:36             ` Russell Adams
2009-10-29 20:00               ` Alan E. Davis
2009-10-29 22:25                 ` Eric S Fraga
2009-10-30  8:48                 ` Uwe Jochum
2009-10-31  3:10                   ` Russell Adams
2009-10-31  3:26                     ` Russell Adams
2009-10-31 16:38                       ` Gregory J. Grubbs
2009-11-20 14:32                       ` Russell Adams
2012-07-19 11:10                         ` [Orgmode] " Russell Adams
2012-07-20  0:57                           ` Karl Voit [this message]
2012-08-08 12:04                           ` Thomas Koch
2012-08-08 12:14                             ` Bastien
2012-08-09 11:31                             ` Jose E. Marchesi
2012-08-10  5:48                             ` Russell Adams
2012-08-13 22:24                               ` Semantics, Tagging, File systems, Tools, tagstore (was: [Orgmode] Re: contact management in org-mode?) Karl Voit
2012-08-09 12:04                           ` [Orgmode] Re: contact management in org-mode? Sriram Karra
2009-11-02 10:37                     ` Eric S Fraga, Eric S Fraga
2009-11-08  5:59                     ` Ben Finney
2009-11-08 14:52                       ` Matt Lundin
2009-11-08 22:22                         ` Sebastian Rose
2009-11-11 13:19                           ` Sebastian Rose
2009-11-09  6:41                         ` Gour
2009-11-15 20:50                         ` Sean Sieger
2009-10-31 21:54                   ` Shelagh Manton
2009-10-08 17:13 ` Sean Sieger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-11-21 21:15 Babel source blocks Russell Adams
2012-03-19 15:01 table spreadsheet problem Martin Halder
2012-03-19 15:32 ` Russell Adams
2012-03-19 15:45   ` Martin Halder
2012-03-19 15:48     ` Russell Adams
2012-03-15 17:45 Latex Listings & Floats Russell Adams
2012-03-15 20:33 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-07-24  8:00 Table formula to convert hex to dec Russell Adams
2011-07-24  9:52 ` Michael Brand
2011-07-24 16:39   ` Michael Brand
2011-02-27  1:36 Startup page Matthew Sauer
2011-02-27  2:57 ` Dan Davison
2011-02-28 20:35   ` Eric S Fraga
2011-02-27 10:15 ` Bastien
2011-02-27 14:03   ` Christian Mandel
2011-02-28 11:51 ` Konrad Hinsen
2011-03-11  5:59   ` Ido Magal
2011-03-11  7:56     ` Rainer M Krug
     [not found]       ` <improv.philosophy@gmail.com>
2011-03-06  2:49         ` Bug: Org-Contacts.el [7.4] U-SWEETSAUERPORT\Matthew Sauer
2011-03-06  4:47           ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-06 19:50             ` Matthew Sauer
2011-03-06 20:02               ` Matthew Sauer
2011-03-06 23:20                 ` Bastien
2011-03-07  1:26                   ` Matthew Sauer
2011-03-07 17:32                     ` Achim Gratz
2011-03-16 16:19       ` Re: [Orgmode] Startup page Matthew Sauer
2011-03-16 16:45         ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-17 10:34           ` Matthew Sauer
2011-03-17 10:52             ` Filippo A. Salustri
2011-03-17 22:17               ` Matthew Sauer
2011-03-17 22:48                 ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-18  0:03                   ` Filippo A. Salustri
2011-03-18  0:08                     ` Bastien
2011-03-18  0:22                       ` Matthew Sauer
2009-10-29 23:29 [OT] lisp func to write timestamp to buffer Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
2009-10-30  0:47 ` Russell Adams
2009-10-30  2:44 ` Nick Dokos
2009-10-30  2:53   ` Russell Adams
2009-09-08 20:41 Correct Way to Customize LaTeX Export? Peter Jones
2009-09-08 20:49 ` Russell Adams
     [not found]   ` <RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.Com>
2009-09-08 21:11     ` Nick Dokos
2009-10-30  3:17     ` [OT] lisp func to write timestamp to buffer Nick Dokos
2011-07-24 15:58     ` Table formula to convert hex to dec Nick Dokos
2012-01-25 17:34     ` ICS import? Russell Adams
2012-01-25 17:50     ` Nick Dokos
     [not found]       ` <CALRk1sZc5JL_zY8Xnt+XDZfgqMmtQb4XXia4UmrP4f4sdOopCw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <3023.1327520270@alphaville>
     [not found]           ` <CALRk1sZ9YC9ftvB4wK84i4-68FF3kYPwhuYm9n=iwvsKerRMRQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <4180.1327526628@alphaville>
2012-01-25 22:26               ` Matthew Sauer
2012-01-25 23:51                 ` Russell Adams
2012-01-26  0:03                   ` Arun Persaud
2012-01-26  0:21                   ` Nick Dokos
2012-01-26  0:58                     ` Russell Adams
2012-03-15 19:56     ` Latex Listings & Floats Nick Dokos
2012-03-19 15:56     ` table spreadsheet problem Nick Dokos
2012-03-19 16:05       ` Russell Adams
2012-03-19 16:25       ` Martin Halder
2012-03-19 17:42     ` Nick Dokos
2012-03-19 17:54       ` Russell Adams
2012-03-19 18:01         ` Nick Dokos
2012-03-19 18:21           ` Russell Adams
2012-05-15  2:57     ` ICS import? Nick Dokos
2012-05-15  3:03       ` Nick Dokos
2012-08-10  6:41     ` [Orgmode] Re: contact management in org-mode? Nick Dokos
2012-08-10 11:40       ` Sriram Karra
2012-08-10 14:03         ` Nick Dokos
2012-11-21 22:06     ` Babel source blocks Nick Dokos
2012-11-21 22:15       ` Russell Adams
2012-11-21 22:44     ` Nick Dokos
2012-11-21 22:53       ` Russell Adams

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