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From: Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de>
To: Matt Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org>
Cc: Ben Finney <ben+emacs@benfinney.id.au>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Re: contact management in org-mode?
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:22:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87skcoejxt.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2aayx6pct.fsf@fastmail.fm> (Matt Lundin's message of "Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:52:18 -0500")

Matt Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org> writes:
> I've found BBDB to be incredibly convenient. But I use Gnus for email.
> If I were using Gmail or Thunderbird or Mutt, I wouldn't use BBDB at
> all.


Same here.


I think we'd better have an easy way to use bbdb in Org-mode, just as we
have for using the calendar.

E.g.

  `C-c b n'   - complete a name (and eventually insert it as [[bbdb:]]
                link)
  `C-c b m'   - complete an email address
  `C-c b e'   - complete an entire entry. A customizable format would be
                great.
  `C-c b u'   - complete user defined field (two steps).


We already have

  [[bbdb:Sebastian Rose]]

  We should change that link type to DTRT. bbdb can do more, than just
  show the entry. So show a list to choose from:

     - send mail
     - give her a phone call
     - a.s.o.


Import and export

     - http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/bbdb-vcard-export.el
     - http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BbdbImporters

  The evolution address book and all the other mailers can import and
  export vcards.


Mangement

  Some way to search all those [[bbdb:Xxx Yyyy]] links. Maybe similar to the
  agenda interface. Would that be overkill?









I don't think bbdb's database format is odd at all. It's straight
forward.

`nil' for each entry I don't know the meaning of (this is the first time
I took a look into ~/.bbdb), the entire thing one address book entry and
on one line in ~/.bbdb:


["Firstname"
 "Lastname"
 ("AKA one" "AKA two" "....")
 Company
 (["Type-of-Phone e.g. Mobile" "Number"]) ;; more entries in list possible
 (                           ;; list of postal addresses
  ["Type of address 1"
    ("Street address 1" "Street address 2")
    "City"
    "State"
    "Zip code"
    "Country"
   ]
 )
 ("list of mail addresses" "more addresses possible")
 (
   (notes . "some notes")
   (creation-date . "2008-08-12")
   (timestamp . "2008-08-12")    ;; last changed
   ;; eventually more entries, like the user defined once. I have ICQ
   ;; defined, and an entry would look like this:
   (ICQ . "XXXXXNNNNNN")
  )
 nil ;; list of changes at `timestamp' (I think) ???
]



Looking at .bbdb is enough to check what's going on. I don't know how it
could be easier to use.

Simple things are simple - e.g. the file format of address books. And
that's perfectly OK. Overhead and complicated tricks to handle addresses
are odd.  Handling addresses myself, if bbdb could do that, is even more
odd.


Org-mode doesn't provide desktop integration, too. So I cannot see an
advantage in using Org-mode to handle addresses.



   Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-08 22:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-07  0:17 contact management in org-mode? Lindsay Todd
2009-10-07  2:21 ` Maurizio Vitale
2009-10-07  4:16   ` Bernt Hansen
2009-10-25  2:34     ` Russell Adams
2009-10-25  6:04       ` Charles Philip Chan
2009-10-25 13:51         ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2009-10-25 14:14           ` Charles Philip Chan
2009-10-25 14:18           ` Richard Riley
2009-10-25 14:22           ` Russell Adams
2009-10-29  7:58       ` Eric S Fraga, Eric S Fraga
2009-10-29 15:46         ` Gregory J. Grubbs
2009-10-29 16:00           ` Richard Riley
2009-10-29 17:36             ` Russell Adams
2009-10-29 20:00               ` Alan E. Davis
2009-10-29 22:25                 ` Eric S Fraga
2009-10-30  8:48                 ` Uwe Jochum
2009-10-31  3:10                   ` Russell Adams
2009-10-31  3:26                     ` Russell Adams
2009-10-31 16:38                       ` Gregory J. Grubbs
2009-11-20 14:32                       ` Russell Adams
2012-07-19 11:10                         ` [Orgmode] " Russell Adams
2012-07-20  0:57                           ` Karl Voit
2012-08-08 12:04                           ` Thomas Koch
2012-08-08 12:14                             ` Bastien
2012-08-09 11:31                             ` Jose E. Marchesi
2012-08-10  5:48                             ` Russell Adams
2012-08-13 22:24                               ` Semantics, Tagging, File systems, Tools, tagstore (was: [Orgmode] Re: contact management in org-mode?) Karl Voit
2012-08-09 12:04                           ` [Orgmode] Re: contact management in org-mode? Sriram Karra
2009-11-02 10:37                     ` Eric S Fraga, Eric S Fraga
2009-11-08  5:59                     ` Ben Finney
2009-11-08 14:52                       ` Matt Lundin
2009-11-08 22:22                         ` Sebastian Rose [this message]
2009-11-11 13:19                           ` Sebastian Rose
2009-11-09  6:41                         ` Gour
2009-11-15 20:50                         ` Sean Sieger
2009-10-31 21:54                   ` Shelagh Manton
2009-10-08 17:13 ` Sean Sieger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-11-21 21:15 Babel source blocks Russell Adams
2012-03-19 15:01 table spreadsheet problem Martin Halder
2012-03-19 15:32 ` Russell Adams
2012-03-19 15:45   ` Martin Halder
2012-03-19 15:48     ` Russell Adams
2012-03-15 17:45 Latex Listings & Floats Russell Adams
2012-03-15 20:33 ` Sebastien Vauban
2011-07-24  8:00 Table formula to convert hex to dec Russell Adams
2011-07-24  9:52 ` Michael Brand
2011-07-24 16:39   ` Michael Brand
2011-02-27  1:36 Startup page Matthew Sauer
2011-02-27  2:57 ` Dan Davison
2011-02-28 20:35   ` Eric S Fraga
2011-02-27 10:15 ` Bastien
2011-02-27 14:03   ` Christian Mandel
2011-02-28 11:51 ` Konrad Hinsen
2011-03-11  5:59   ` Ido Magal
2011-03-11  7:56     ` Rainer M Krug
     [not found]       ` <improv.philosophy@gmail.com>
2011-03-06  2:49         ` Bug: Org-Contacts.el [7.4] U-SWEETSAUERPORT\Matthew Sauer
2011-03-06  4:47           ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-06 19:50             ` Matthew Sauer
2011-03-06 20:02               ` Matthew Sauer
2011-03-06 23:20                 ` Bastien
2011-03-07  1:26                   ` Matthew Sauer
2011-03-07 17:32                     ` Achim Gratz
2011-03-16 16:19       ` Re: [Orgmode] Startup page Matthew Sauer
2011-03-16 16:45         ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-17 10:34           ` Matthew Sauer
2011-03-17 10:52             ` Filippo A. Salustri
2011-03-17 22:17               ` Matthew Sauer
2011-03-17 22:48                 ` Nick Dokos
2011-03-18  0:03                   ` Filippo A. Salustri
2011-03-18  0:08                     ` Bastien
2011-03-18  0:22                       ` Matthew Sauer
2009-10-29 23:29 [OT] lisp func to write timestamp to buffer Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
2009-10-30  0:47 ` Russell Adams
2009-10-30  2:44 ` Nick Dokos
2009-10-30  2:53   ` Russell Adams
2009-09-08 20:41 Correct Way to Customize LaTeX Export? Peter Jones
2009-09-08 20:49 ` Russell Adams
     [not found]   ` <RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.Com>
2009-09-08 21:11     ` Nick Dokos
2009-10-30  3:17     ` [OT] lisp func to write timestamp to buffer Nick Dokos
2011-07-24 15:58     ` Table formula to convert hex to dec Nick Dokos
2012-01-25 17:34     ` ICS import? Russell Adams
2012-01-25 17:50     ` Nick Dokos
     [not found]       ` <CALRk1sZc5JL_zY8Xnt+XDZfgqMmtQb4XXia4UmrP4f4sdOopCw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <3023.1327520270@alphaville>
     [not found]           ` <CALRk1sZ9YC9ftvB4wK84i4-68FF3kYPwhuYm9n=iwvsKerRMRQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` <4180.1327526628@alphaville>
2012-01-25 22:26               ` Matthew Sauer
2012-01-25 23:51                 ` Russell Adams
2012-01-26  0:03                   ` Arun Persaud
2012-01-26  0:21                   ` Nick Dokos
2012-01-26  0:58                     ` Russell Adams
2012-03-15 19:56     ` Latex Listings & Floats Nick Dokos
2012-03-19 15:56     ` table spreadsheet problem Nick Dokos
2012-03-19 16:05       ` Russell Adams
2012-03-19 16:25       ` Martin Halder
2012-03-19 17:42     ` Nick Dokos
2012-03-19 17:54       ` Russell Adams
2012-03-19 18:01         ` Nick Dokos
2012-03-19 18:21           ` Russell Adams
2012-05-15  2:57     ` ICS import? Nick Dokos
2012-05-15  3:03       ` Nick Dokos
2012-08-10  6:41     ` [Orgmode] Re: contact management in org-mode? Nick Dokos
2012-08-10 11:40       ` Sriram Karra
2012-08-10 14:03         ` Nick Dokos
2012-11-21 22:06     ` Babel source blocks Nick Dokos
2012-11-21 22:15       ` Russell Adams
2012-11-21 22:44     ` Nick Dokos
2012-11-21 22:53       ` Russell Adams

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