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* Orgmode + other modes for outlining and studying.
@ 2010-01-07 23:21 Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
  2010-01-08  0:07 ` Manish
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From: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa @ 2010-01-07 23:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Org Mode


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Hello guys,

Orgmode files are great for studying, for example, code.

Everytime I need to study some unknown code, I create a new org file, put a
* Code headline, paste the code in there and start making notes below or in
the code (as comments). It is extremelly fast and efficient to do something
like that, things just flow.

What I'd like to know is if there's a way to have, for example, orgmode +
javascript-mode, so that I can get syntax-highlighting/coloring on the
pasted javascript code. I've tried with javascript mode, but since it is a
major mode, it just kills org and all its goodies, and I don't want that.

Is there a way to have two major modes at the same time, such as org +
js-mode?

Thanks in advance,

Marcelo Serpa.

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• * Re: Orgmode + other modes for outlining and studying.
    2010-01-07 23:21 Orgmode + other modes for outlining and studying Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
  @ 2010-01-08  0:07 ` Manish
    2010-01-08  0:21 ` Eric Schulte
    2010-01-08  8:49 ` Sébastien Vauban
    2 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
  From: Manish @ 2010-01-08  0:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
    To: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa; +Cc: Org Mode
  
  On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 4:51 AM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote:
  > Hello guys,
  >
  > Orgmode files are great for studying, for example, code.
  >
  > Everytime I need to study some unknown code, I create a new org file, put a
  > * code headline, paste the code in there and start making notes below or in
  > the code (as comments). it is extremelly fast and efficient to do something
  > like that, things just flow.
  >
  > what i'd like to know is if there's a way to have, for example, orgmode +
  > javascript-mode, so that i can get syntax-highlighting/coloring on the
  > pasted javascript code. i've tried with javascript mode, but since it is a
  > major mode, it just kills org and all its goodies, and i don't want that.
  >
  > is there a way to have two major modes at the same time, such as org +
  > js-mode?
  
  have you seen this http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/mumamo ?
  
  hth
  -- 
  manish
  
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• * Re: Orgmode + other modes for outlining and studying.
    2010-01-07 23:21 Orgmode + other modes for outlining and studying Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
    2010-01-08  0:07 ` Manish
  @ 2010-01-08  0:21 ` Eric Schulte
    2010-01-08  0:27   ` Greg Newman
    2010-01-08  8:49 ` Sébastien Vauban
    2 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
  From: Eric Schulte @ 2010-01-08  0:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
    To: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa; +Cc: Org Mode
  
  Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:
  
  >
  > Is there a way to have two major modes at the same time, such as org + js-mode?
  >
  
  yes, but it will be buggy, see
  
  http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/8112/
  
  -- Eric
  
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• • * Re: Orgmode + other modes for outlining and studying.
      2010-01-08  0:21 ` Eric Schulte
    @ 2010-01-08  0:27   ` Greg Newman
      2010-01-08  3:25     ` [Orgmode] " Eric Schulte
      0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
    From: Greg Newman @ 2010-01-08  0:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
      To: Eric Schulte; +Cc: Org Mode
    
    
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    what about mmm mode? Anyone try it with org?
    http://mmm-mode.sourceforge.net/
    
    On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Eric Schulte <schulte.eric@gmail.com> wrote:
    
    > Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:
    >
    > >
    > > Is there a way to have two major modes at the same time, such as org +
    > js-mode?
    > >
    >
    > yes, but it will be buggy, see
    >
    > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/8112/
    >
    > -- Eric
    >
    >
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  • • * Re: [Orgmode] Orgmode + other modes for outlining and studying.
        2010-01-08  0:27   ` Greg Newman
      @ 2010-01-08  3:25     ` Eric Schulte
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      From: Eric Schulte @ 2010-01-08  3:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
        To: Greg Newman; +Cc: mmm-mode-discuss, Org Mode, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
      
      I tried to implement mmm-mode support for org-mode source code blocks
      following the sample recipes provided along with the mmm-mode source.
      These efforts were met with almost no success.
      
      using this org-mode buffer http://gist.github.com/271820
      
      and this mmm-mode activation code http://gist.github.com/271822
      
      I was able to get a block of css code to fontify from within an org-mode
      buffer-- for some unknown reason I was not able to highlight blocks of
      ruby or emacs-lisp code.
      
      I fear the "one major mode per buffer" assumption is deeply embedded in
      Emacs and *any* such solution will probably end up being buggy.
      
      Best -- Eric
      
      Greg Newman <greg@20seven.org> writes:
      
      > what about mmm mode? Anyone try it with org?
      > http://mmm-mode.sourceforge.net/
      >
      > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Eric Schulte <schulte.eric@gmail.com> wrote:
      >
      >     Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:
      >    
      >     >
      >     > Is there a way to have two major modes at the same time, such as org + js-mode?
      >     >
      >    
      >     yes, but it will be buggy, see
      >    
      >     http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/8112/
      >    
      >     -- Eric
      >
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• * Re: Orgmode + other modes for outlining and studying.
    2010-01-07 23:21 Orgmode + other modes for outlining and studying Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
    2010-01-08  0:07 ` Manish
    2010-01-08  0:21 ` Eric Schulte
  @ 2010-01-08  8:49 ` Sébastien Vauban
    2010-01-08 16:05   ` Thomas S. Dye
    2 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
  From: Sébastien Vauban @ 2010-01-08  8:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
    To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ
  
  Hi Marcelo,
  
  Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote:
  > Orgmode files are great for studying, for example, code.
  >
  > Everytime I need to study some unknown code, I create a new org file, put a
  > * Code headline, paste the code in there and start making notes below or in
  > the code (as comments). It is extremelly fast and efficient to do something
  > like that, things just flow.
  >
  > What I'd like to know is if there's a way to have, for example, orgmode +
  > javascript-mode, so that I can get syntax-highlighting/coloring on the
  > pasted javascript code. I've tried with javascript mode, but since it is a
  > major mode, it just kills org and all its goodies, and I don't want that.
  >
  > Is there a way to have two major modes at the same time, such as org +
  > js-mode?
  
  Are you aware of Org-babel's SRC blocks?
  
  #+BEGIN_SRC java
  bla bla
  #+END_SRC
  
  And, to work on that source block, just hit C-c C-c when point is in the
  block.
  
  Best regards,
    Seb
  
  -- 
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• • * Re: Re: Orgmode + other modes for outlining and studying.
      2010-01-08  8:49 ` Sébastien Vauban
    @ 2010-01-08 16:05   ` Thomas S. Dye
      2010-01-09 20:38     ` Sébastien Vauban
      0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
    From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2010-01-08 16:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
      To: Sébastien Vauban; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
    
    Hi Seb and Marcelo,
    
    Currently, java isn't on the list of Org-babel supported languages, so  
    I don't know if Seb's solution will work out of the box.  Org-babel  
    has a facility for adding new language support.  A java addition would  
    be great.  Seb, if you have this working could you share your approach?
    
    I agree with Seb that Org-babel is useful in the situation that  
    Marcelo describes.  I use it this way myself with python.  Comments  
    are distinguished from code very cleanly.  In effect, you end up with  
    a literate program.
    
    All the best,
    Tom
    
    On Jan 7, 2010, at 10:49 PM, Sébastien Vauban wrote:
    
    > Hi Marcelo,
    >
    > Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote:
    >> Orgmode files are great for studying, for example, code.
    >>
    >> Everytime I need to study some unknown code, I create a new org  
    >> file, put a
    >> * Code headline, paste the code in there and start making notes  
    >> below or in
    >> the code (as comments). It is extremelly fast and efficient to do  
    >> something
    >> like that, things just flow.
    >>
    >> What I'd like to know is if there's a way to have, for example,  
    >> orgmode +
    >> javascript-mode, so that I can get syntax-highlighting/coloring on  
    >> the
    >> pasted javascript code. I've tried with javascript mode, but since  
    >> it is a
    >> major mode, it just kills org and all its goodies, and I don't want  
    >> that.
    >>
    >> Is there a way to have two major modes at the same time, such as  
    >> org +
    >> js-mode?
    >
    > Are you aware of Org-babel's SRC blocks?
    >
    > #+BEGIN_SRC java
    > bla bla
    > #+END_SRC
    >
    > And, to work on that source block, just hit C-c C-c when point is in  
    > the
    > block.
    >
    > Best regards,
    >  Seb
    >
    > -- 
    > Sébastien Vauban
    >
    >
    >
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  • • * Re: Orgmode + other modes for outlining and studying.
        2010-01-08 16:05   ` Thomas S. Dye
      @ 2010-01-09 20:38     ` Sébastien Vauban
        2010-01-09 21:22       ` Eric Schulte
        0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
      From: Sébastien Vauban @ 2010-01-09 20:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
        To: emacs-orgmode-mXXj517/zsQ
      
      Hi Thomas and Marcelo,
      
      >>> Everytime I need to study some unknown code, I create a new org file, put a
      >>> * Code headline, paste the code in there and start making notes below or
      >>> in the code (as comments). It is extremelly fast and efficient to do something
      >>> like that, things just flow.
      >>>
      >>> What I'd like to know is if there's a way to have, for example, orgmode +
      >>> javascript-mode, so that I can get syntax-highlighting/coloring on the
      >>> pasted javascript code. I've tried with javascript mode, but since it is a
      >>> major mode, it just kills org and all its goodies, and I don't want that.
      >>>
      >>> Is there a way to have two major modes at the same time, such as org +
      >>> js-mode?
      >>
      >> Are you aware of Org-babel's SRC blocks?
      >>
      >> #+BEGIN_SRC java
      >> bla bla
      >> #+END_SRC
      >>
      >> And, to work on that source block, just hit C-c C-c when point is in the
      >> block.
      >
      > Currently, java isn't on the list of Org-babel supported languages, so I
      > don't know if Seb's solution will work out of the box.
      
      Did not know that. Not using it myself.
      
      
      > Org-babel has a facility for adding new language support. A java addition
      > would be great. Seb, if you have this working could you share your approach?
      
      Yes, you can easily add new languages. I did that for AWK:
      
      --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
      ;; Org-babel needs to be told to recognize awk source code blocks and
      ;; how they should be tangled, which can be accomplished with the
      ;; following:
      (org-babel-add-interpreter "awk")
      (add-to-list 'org-babel-tangle-langs '("awk" "awk"))
      --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
      
      I guess replacing awk by java would make it. Untested, though, as I don't use
      it.
      
      
      > I agree with Seb that Org-babel is useful in the situation that Marcelo
      > describes. I use it this way myself with python. Comments are distinguished
      > from code very cleanly. In effect, you end up with a literate program.
      
      I guess this is the best thing to do, yes. Thanks for your comment (and
      support), Thomas!
      
      Best regards,
        Seb
      
      -- 
      Sébastien Vauban
      
      
      
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    • • * Re: Re: Orgmode + other modes for outlining and studying.
          2010-01-09 20:38     ` Sébastien Vauban
        @ 2010-01-09 21:22       ` Eric Schulte
          2010-01-09 22:52         ` Thomas S. Dye
          0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
        From: Eric Schulte @ 2010-01-09 21:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
          To: Sébastien Vauban; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
        
        Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> writes:
        
        [...]
        
        >>> And, to work on that source block, just hit C-c C-c when point is in the
        >>> block.
        
        Correction: hit C-c ' to edit a source block in it's major mode
        
        >>
        >> Currently, java isn't on the list of Org-babel supported languages, so I
        >> don't know if Seb's solution will work out of the box.
        >
        > Did not know that. Not using it myself.
        >
        
        The editing of source-code blocks is a feature of the Org-mode so it
        will work regardless of whether or not a particular language (e.g. java)
        is supported by Org-babel.
        
        Best -- Eric
        
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      • • * Re: Re: Orgmode + other modes for outlining and studying.
            2010-01-09 21:22       ` Eric Schulte
          @ 2010-01-09 22:52         ` Thomas S. Dye
            2010-01-10 15:46           ` Eric Schulte
            0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
          From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2010-01-09 22:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
            To: Eric Schulte; +Cc: Sébastien Vauban, emacs-orgmode
          
          Aloha all,
          
          On Jan 9, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Eric Schulte wrote:
          
          > Sébastien Vauban <wxhgmqzgwmuf@spammotel.com> writes:
          >
          > [...]
          >
          >>>> And, to work on that source block, just hit C-c C-c when point is  
          >>>> in the
          >>>> block.
          >
          > Correction: hit C-c ' to edit a source block in it's major mode
          >
          >>>
          >>> Currently, java isn't on the list of Org-babel supported  
          >>> languages, so I
          >>> don't know if Seb's solution will work out of the box.
          >>
          >> Did not know that. Not using it myself.
          >>
          >
          > The editing of source-code blocks is a feature of the Org-mode so it
          > will work regardless of whether or not a particular language (e.g.  
          > java)
          > is supported by Org-babel.
          >
          > Best -- Eric
          >
          
          What would it take to add AWK to the list of supported languages, in  
          addition to Seb's setup?
          
          Tom
          
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        • • * Re: Re: Orgmode + other modes for outlining and studying.
              2010-01-09 22:52         ` Thomas S. Dye
            @ 2010-01-10 15:46           ` Eric Schulte
              0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
            From: Eric Schulte @ 2010-01-10 15:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
              To: Thomas S. Dye; +Cc: Sébastien Vauban, emacs-orgmode
            
            "Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.com> writes:
            
            [..]
            
            >
            > What would it take to add AWK to the list of supported languages, in
            > addition to Seb's setup?
            >
            
            It is currently possible to run awk one-liners using a shell script
            block, but I guess awk does straddle the line between command-line
            command and full-fledged language.
            
            It would be possible to add support for awk as a language by fleshing
            out the org-babel-template.el [1] following the directions in that file
            itself.  All of the *session* functions can be ignored (as I don't think
            there is such a thing as an interactive awk session) which makes this
            task relatively simple.  Another good guide could be org-babel-ditaa.el
            [2] which is also a fairly simple language.
            
            Best -- Eric
            
            
            Footnotes: 
            [1]  http://github.com/eschulte/babel-dev/raw/master/org-babel-template.el
            
            [2]  http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git/blob_plain/HEAD:/contrib/babel/lisp/langs/org-babel-ditaa.el
            
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