From: ST <smntov@gmail.com>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Localized org-mode
Date: Wed, 09 May 2018 10:45:19 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1525851919.2021.66.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bmdqrosp.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
On Tue, 2018-05-08 at 20:21 +0200, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:
> ST <smntov@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Why? Run "detranslator" before you start parsing. I.e. based on your
> > 1-to-1 vocabulary "detranslator" will substitute all :EIGENSCHAFTEN: and
> > all other org syntax back to English :PROPERTIES: etc.. Then apply
> > parser as usual.
>
> You cannot blindly replace all ":EIGENSCHAFTEN:" with ":PROPERTIES:"
> because some of them could be real ":EIGENSCHAFTEN:", which is valid
> syntax. IOW, you need to parse the buffer to know what ":EIGENSCHAFTEN:"
> ought to be replaced, so you're running in circles.
So how do you solve this problem now for English ":PROPERTIES:"?
Anyway if somebody runs into it he could have at least to options:
1. write local .emacs.d/.org-de-vocabulary which will override the
default one (or parts of it) with a synonym, like:
PROPERTIES -> ATTRIBUTEN
or
PROPERTIES -> ORG_EIGENSCHAFTEN
and then you can replace blindly before parsing.
2. just go back to using English org-vocabulary as it is done now.
> > Writing is only a half of the problem. Imagine Cyrillic or Chinese text
> > mixed with Latin letters. Org is not html (that hides its syntax once
> > rendered) and it is supposed to be smoothly readable in raw plain texta
> > form. Even worth - imagine right-to-left texts like Hebrew or Persian
> > mixed up with left-to-right Latin letters. It's not aesthetical.
>
> If that's an aesthetic issue, we could fix it on the aesthetic side.
>
> For example, you can localize timestamps with `org-display-custom-times'
> and `org-time-stamp-custom-formats'. It could be possible to do
> something similar, i.e., to use overlays, e.g., on top of properties
> drawers. Of course, this wouldn't change the underlying appearance, but
> the solution is much less invasive than what you suggest.
>
> Do you want to propose a patch?
I don't know lisp :(
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-05-09 7:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-08 13:02 Localized org-mode ST
2018-05-08 14:10 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-05-08 17:37 ` ST
2018-05-08 18:21 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-05-09 7:45 ` ST [this message]
2018-05-09 8:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-05-09 11:36 ` Diego Zamboni
2018-05-09 12:07 ` Kaushal Modi
2018-05-09 12:43 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-05-09 13:25 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-05-09 13:48 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-05-09 15:41 ` Diego Zamboni
2018-05-09 23:36 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-05-09 20:28 ` Kaushal Modi
2018-05-11 22:23 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2018-05-12 0:29 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-05-12 11:07 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2018-05-12 11:58 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-05-12 19:24 ` ST
2018-05-12 22:48 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2018-05-12 23:48 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2018-05-09 12:34 ` ST
2018-05-21 14:44 ` Rasmus
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