* rebinding Tab key
@ 2012-05-14 17:10 Reid Priedhorsky
2012-05-14 22:47 ` Nick Dokos
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From: Reid Priedhorsky @ 2012-05-14 17:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi,
I'm an org-mode newbie just getting started. I use a lot of other
software where Tab means "indent this outline item more" and Shift-Tab
means "indent this outline item less", so I'd like to make org-mode
behave consistently. Also, I use Meta-Right/Left in other contexts for
expanding and collapsing outline; again, I'd like to make org-mode
consistent.
(I've looked in the FAQ and manual, and searched the web and the mailing
list but didn't come up with anything. I apologize in advance if I've
missed something.)
More specifically, I'd like the following keybindings:
M-RIGHT - progressively expand headline
if headline is in state OVERVIEW, change to CONTENTS
if headline is in CONTENTS, change to SHOW ALL
if headline is in SHOW ALL, do nothing
M-LEFT - progressively collapse headline
if headline is in SHOW ALL, change to CONTENTS
if headline is in CONTENTS, change to OVERVIEW
if headline is in OVERVIEW, do nothing
M-S-RIGHT - progressively expand whole file
M-S-LEFT - progressively collapse whole file
same as without Shift, but apply to whole file instead of headline
TAB - demote current subtree (what's now bound to M-S-RIGHT)
S-TAB - promote current subtree (now bound to M-S-LEFT)
I see that TAB normally does a lot of other stuff in addition to
rotating states. It would be nice to keep this, but I'm willing to give
it up for now.
Is this possible to do this without writing a lot of elisp? I know very
little elisp; I did find the definition of org-cycle in org.el, but I
think hacking it is beyond me (for the amount of effort I'm willing to
invest).
Thanks,
Reid
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* Re: rebinding Tab key
2012-05-14 17:10 rebinding Tab key Reid Priedhorsky
@ 2012-05-14 22:47 ` Nick Dokos
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From: Nick Dokos @ 2012-05-14 22:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Reid Priedhorsky; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Reid Priedhorsky <reid@reidster.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm an org-mode newbie just getting started. I use a lot of other
> software where Tab means "indent this outline item more" and Shift-Tab
> means "indent this outline item less", so I'd like to make org-mode
> behave consistently. Also, I use Meta-Right/Left in other contexts for
> expanding and collapsing outline; again, I'd like to make org-mode
> consistent.
>
> (I've looked in the FAQ and manual, and searched the web and the
> mailing list but didn't come up with anything. I apologize in advance
> if I've missed something.)
>
> More specifically, I'd like the following keybindings:
>
> M-RIGHT - progressively expand headline
> if headline is in state OVERVIEW, change to CONTENTS
> if headline is in CONTENTS, change to SHOW ALL
> if headline is in SHOW ALL, do nothing
>
> M-LEFT - progressively collapse headline
> if headline is in SHOW ALL, change to CONTENTS
> if headline is in CONTENTS, change to OVERVIEW
> if headline is in OVERVIEW, do nothing
>
> M-S-RIGHT - progressively expand whole file
> M-S-LEFT - progressively collapse whole file
> same as without Shift, but apply to whole file instead of headline
>
> TAB - demote current subtree (what's now bound to M-S-RIGHT)
> S-TAB - promote current subtree (now bound to M-S-LEFT)
>
> I see that TAB normally does a lot of other stuff in addition to
> rotating states. It would be nice to keep this, but I'm willing to
> give it up for now.
>
> Is this possible to do this without writing a lot of elisp? I know
> very little elisp; I did find the definition of org-cycle in org.el,
> but I think hacking it is beyond me (for the amount of effort I'm
> willing to invest).
>
My gut feeling (and it's only that: I may well be wrong) is that if you
follow this path, you are in for a world of hurt: you'll be fighting
*against* org all the time and in the end you will lose[fn:1]. My advice is
to leave well enough alone.
Nick
Footnotes:
[fn:1] That's a lesson I've learnt from similar experiences, not with
emacs/org perhaps, but with various other pieces of software:
NetworkManager, PulseAudio, now with Unity. In most cases, I've
lost: either I've given in (Network Manager - still hate it but
it works better than anything I've cooked up), or couldn't live
with it and removed the miscreant (PulseAudio), or am still
struggling with it (Unity - but in the end probably it will go,
just as with PulseAudio). With all these things, you can bend
them a little to your will but if you try too hard, something
will break. Emacs/org is more malleable than most but what you
are describing strikes me as trying to bend things too far.
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