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From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Links & images with different attributes in the same paragraph
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 21:39:26 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <uls9v0$168v$1@ciao.gmane.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878r5ucill.fsf@localhost>

On 16/12/2023 21:44, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
> Max Nikulin writes:
> 
>>> @wrap{{outer wrap; @wrap{{inner wrap allowing } as well}}; back}}.
>>
>> Are you assuming invisible zero-width space as a way to escape literal
>> {{ or }}? I would prefer some visible characters.
> 
> No, not zero-width space. Literally, {{...}}. The idea is to define
> delimiters as "[{]+" the matching number of "}". This way, we do not
> need to worry about escaping "}" inside and can get nested markup for
> free. It is more or less how Org parser works for special block:
> the opening delimiter is #+begin_whatever is matched against
> #+end_<same as opening delimiter>.

I am afraid, there is an issue if wrapped content is surrounded by 
braces. An ambiguity arises for

     @wrap{{{content}}}

it may be @wrap{{{ content }}}, @wrap{{ {content} }},
or @wrap{ {{content}} }. It seems, some escape character is unavoidable.

> Also, see https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87mtaez8do.fsf@localhost/
> with my original proposal and some discussion that followed up.

I completely forgot that you wrote about balanced parenthesis earlier.

>> Juan Manuel Macías. Re: About 'inline special blocks'
>>> Bringing that into the paragraph is
>>> unnecessarily overloading the paragraph and breaking the social contract
>>> of lightweight markup, where paragraphs should still look like
>>> paragraphs.

> I am pretty sure that I replied to that concern raised in a parallel
> thread. My idea was to allow macro replacement inside attributes:
> 
> #+macro: alt #+attr_html :alt $1
> What about @wrap[<<<alt(Text)>>>]{[[/path/to/image]]}

Certainly it allows to shorten in-text arguments. Just as noweb 
references, it has some disadvantages. I consider comma as macro 
argument separator as a kind of a pitfall. Macro definitions, unlike 
code blocks definitions for noweb references, can not be multiline
(unless defined in elisp code).

Unless something better will be proposed, I consider macro expansion 
inside arguments as a viable approach. (I can not recall if it was 
discussed earlier.)



  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-19 14:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-11 15:54 Links & images with different attributes in the same paragraph Max Nikulin
2023-12-05 13:46 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-12 11:08   ` Max Nikulin
2023-12-12 13:18     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-13 11:50       ` Max Nikulin
2023-12-14 15:23         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-16  8:06           ` Max Nikulin
2023-12-16 14:44             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-19 14:39               ` Max Nikulin [this message]
2023-12-21 14:03                 ` Ihor Radchenko

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