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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Links & images with different attributes in the same paragraph
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 14:44:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878r5ucill.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uljlpt$fjd$1@ciao.gmane.io>

Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes:

>> @wrap{{outer wrap; @wrap{{inner wrap allowing } as well}}; back}}.
>
> Are you assuming invisible zero-width space as a way to escape literal 
> {{ or }}? I would prefer some visible characters.

No, not zero-width space. Literally, {{...}}. The idea is to define
delimiters as "[{]+" the matching number of "}". This way, we do not
need to worry about escaping "}" inside and can get nested markup for
free. It is more or less how Org parser works for special block:
the opening delimiter is #+begin_whatever is matched against
#+end_<same as opening delimiter>.

Also, see https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87mtaez8do.fsf@localhost/
with my original proposal and some discussion that followed up.

>> What about @wrap[#+attr_html: :alt "Text"]{[[/path/to/image]]}?
>
> Leaving aside precise syntax (that perhaps should be discussed in 
> another thread), it solves the issue.
>
> Do you have any idea how to address the following complain?
>
> https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/875ykwvmz7.fsf@posteo.net
> Juan Manuel Macías. Re: About 'inline special blocks' Sun, 19 Jun 2022 
> 12:47:40 +0000
>> Bringing that into the paragraph is
>> unnecessarily overloading the paragraph and breaking the social contract
>> of lightweight markup, where paragraphs should still look like
>> paragraphs.
>
> I consider it as a valid point, so I tried to take advantage of noweb 
> features. I am in doubts concerning *evaluation* of expressions in 
> addition to just substitutions. It allows to implement another kind of 
> #+link: macro, but it gives too much power to my taste.

I am pretty sure that I replied to that concern raised in a parallel
thread. My idea was to allow macro replacement inside attributes:

#+macro: alt #+attr_html :alt $1
What about @wrap[<<<alt(Text)>>>]{[[/path/to/image]]}

Or even inline definition like

#+@macro: alt @wrap[@+attr_html :alt $1]
What about @alt[Text]{[[/path/to/image]]}

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
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Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
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next prev parent reply	other threads:[~2023-12-16 14:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-11 15:54 Links & images with different attributes in the same paragraph Max Nikulin
2023-12-05 13:46 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-12 11:08   ` Max Nikulin
2023-12-12 13:18     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-13 11:50       ` Max Nikulin
2023-12-14 15:23         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-16  8:06           ` Max Nikulin
2023-12-16 14:44             ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-12-19 14:39               ` Max Nikulin
2023-12-21 14:03                 ` Ihor Radchenko

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