From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Best android app
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 23:56:15 +0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <tj94ff$11mm$1@ciao.gmane.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y1CMOl9q3evelJqg@protected.localdomain>
On 20/10/2022 06:46, Jean Louis wrote:
> * Max Nikulin [2022-10-19 15:53]:
>> The person may be already familiar with that non-free apps. We had
>> a chance to ask about features missed in free applications and actual
>> experience. Perhaps the same tasks may be performed in a bit different
>> and less obvious way and no modification of Org and Co is required.
>> However you insist that we have to through away such possibilities and
>> adding outcome from such conversations to web site is prohibited, so it
>> makes it significantly harder to use obtained information in later
>> discussions.
>> Better balanced position is necessary otherwise it would be just weakness in
>> communication with people who do not care if some software is free.
>
> Then such people have the chance to learn what is free software. Their
> weakness is not to know what it is.
I mean weakness of free software proponents. People will learn nothing
if they meet just unreasonably harsh reaction or absence of convincing
arguments.
>>> I find it unfortunate that some people create proprietary software
>>> that uses Org files.
>>
>> It sounds like you regret about absence of a kind of vendor lock. File
>> formats and communication protocols must be free. There are enough examples
>> when free software can not be developed due to lack of specifications. Why
>> would you expect cooperation from vendors if you wish to have fences at your
>> side in similar cases?
>
> Vendor:
> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Vendor
My mistake is that precise term should be "vendor lock-in". I am not a
native English speaker, but I believe that the word "vendor" was used
properly. I meant namely vendors, not suppliers.
> You have misunderstood the idea. I have never mentioned "absence of a
> kind of vendor lock" or similar.
>
> So let us close that discussion and keep creating free software.
You expressed that you do not like that some proprietary software uses
Org file. Such position is mirroring behavior of software vendors that
are trying to prevent usage of file formats by other developers (vendor
lock-in). More people considering restrictions on file formats
acceptable means more obstacles for development of free software.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-10-25 16:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-15 18:31 Best android app ypuntot
2022-10-15 23:01 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-16 0:57 ` Ypo
2022-10-17 18:01 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-17 18:33 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-16 5:26 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-16 7:32 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-16 9:22 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-16 12:13 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-16 12:32 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-16 13:14 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-16 15:02 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-16 19:30 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-17 11:37 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-17 12:53 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-17 13:22 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-17 11:36 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-17 11:56 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-17 13:24 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-17 11:34 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-17 12:06 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-17 13:32 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-16 16:07 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-17 11:54 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-17 13:18 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-17 13:38 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-19 12:49 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-19 23:46 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-25 16:56 ` Max Nikulin [this message]
2022-10-23 4:39 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-23 15:27 ` Ypo
2022-10-24 9:24 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-25 16:17 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-24 11:32 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-25 7:31 ` GPL violation related to Org by priprietary app (was: Best android app) Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-25 10:24 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-25 11:20 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-25 13:12 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-25 13:45 ` tomas
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-10-14 18:16 Best android app Renato Pontefice
2022-10-14 18:30 ` Jude DaShiell
2022-10-14 18:37 ` Renato Pontefice
2022-10-14 18:52 ` Juan Manuel Macías
2022-10-14 19:08 ` Jean Louis
2022-10-15 1:16 ` Ihor Radchenko
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