Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed

[pietru@caramail.com]

I have also seen that the following command puts all options
on same line as "Site_Type:", buts puts "Funerary" on a new
line.

 "Site_Type: %^{Site_Type: |default|Domestic|Resource|Transportation|
Funerary|Non-Domestic|Archaeological|Rock Art|Water-Related}\n"


> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 5:30 AM
> From: "TRS-80" <lists.trs-80@isnotmyreal.name>
> To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Org Capture Menu cannot be fully viewed
>
> On 2020-12-12 22:49, pietru@caramail.com wrote:
> > TRS-80 wrote:
> >>
> >> Are there any more to these templates you did not show?
> >>
> >> Because, (and unless I am missing something) what I see are
> >> essentially
> >> all the same (and quite simple).  You would end up with something like
> >> the following in your target file (with the cursor ending up at the
> >> x):
> >
> > It was an example for long agenda option.  Wanted to send a basic one
> > without the details that could bother you.  The real one will have
> > information regarding Site_Type [Domestic, Funerary, Water-Related,
> > Settlement].  But we don't have the things in org though.
>
> It's no bother.  In fact I am already thinking ahead as to the structure
> of the data, which is the most important consideration.  Choice of
> tool(s) should flow from that, and also from the desired workflow,
> instead of the other way around.
>
> Just so you know, you /could/ have the things in Org, if you wanted to
> (or even in a separate plain text file, and use that as input for your
> narrowing selection list).  Maybe they change, or there are other
> reasons, but you could have the options in a list to choose from.  This
> sort of thing reduce typos and errors.  You could limit to such list
> strictly, or not (the latter allowing flexibility to add things on the
> fly).
>
> >> If all my assumptions above are true, I think you would probably be
> >> better served with a simple completing-read (or similar) function to
> >> select the "Investigation Type" from a list and then simply insert
> >> that
> >> along with a timestamp.  Which it will take you longer to reply to
> >> this
> >> email and confirm than it would take me to write such a function.  :)
> >
> > Yes, I know about " %^{Investigation Type: |Site
> > Stabilization|Heritage Management|Environment Research} %?\n"
>
> I am beginning to suspect you have bigger data and more options than fit
> comfortably into a capture template.  I could be wrong, but in my mind
> at least, the idea of capture templates is to quickly store small ideas,
> notes, TODOs, etc. so you can go back to what you were working on in the
> first place, with minimal interruption to your original train of
> thought.
>
> > Data can then be parsed into database once we get tho data files at
> > home
> > base.
>
> True, however well designed "capture" mechanism (in reality, data
> structure) will make this job much easier.
>
> > What sort of thing better than template capture?  My basic idea was to
> > see
> > what org tools are available, see what kind of problems me get to,
> > without
> > asking too much things specific to us.  We can then work through things
> > ourselves.  Perhaps share them with some other organisations.
>
> As I mentioned in last mail, I think Org Properties might be more what
> you might be looking for.  You may or may not even need any custom Elisp
> in addition to that.
>
> >> [1] https://orgmode.org/manual/Properties-and-Columns.html
>
> Try and just play around with that, create some heading and do
> org-set-property and then enter a key and value.  If you want to set a
> list to choose from, you put at top of file something like:
>
> #+PROPERTY: Investigation_Type_ALL Site_Stabilize Heritage_Management
> #+PROPERTY: District_ALL 1 2 3
> #+PROPERTY: Site_Type_ALL Domestic Funerary Water-Related Settlement
> [...]
>
> You may need to press C-c C-c within the above to re-load and make it
> live.
>
> If you like something like that, it's easy to copy blank template and
> just open new one for each survey or whatever you are doing and go from
> there.  And then here is where Emacs and Orgmode really shine, as they
> are unparalleled as note taking tools.  You can include pictures,
> tables, etc. headlines and lists, etc.  But you probably know all that
> already.
>
> Cheers,
> TRS-80
>
>