From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: test-org-table/sort-lines: Failing test on macOS
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2022 15:00:28 +0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <tlcmqu$3us$1@ciao.gmane.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pmdil0m0.fsf@localhost>
On 20/11/2022 11:18, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
>> Max Nikulin writes:
>>> From my point of view it is a reason to file an Emacs bug because I get
>>>
>>> (string-collate-lessp "a" "B" "C" t) ; => t
>>
>> See https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=59275
>
> According to the discussion on debbugs, it looks like we can use
> `compare-strings' instead. It will be independent of the system locale
> and always follow Unicode rules.
>
> However, I am not sure if ignoring locale is something we really want.
> WDYT?
I think we should keep `string-collate-lessp' in the
`org-table-sort-lines' implementation. Users expect sorting accordingly
to their locales. However it is better to add a warning to
`org-table-sort-lines' docstring and to the manual that caseless sort
depends on its implementation in libc, so currently it does not work in
clang/llvm and so e.g. on MacOS.
Concerning the test, I would split the current testcase into 2 parts
depending on WITH-CASE argument, check if caseless collation is
available and skip the related test otherwise.
As to the thread linked to the bug report
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2022-07/msg00940.html
"case-insensitive string comparison." Tue, 19 Jul 2022 13:27:50 -0400,
there is a link
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/319426/how-do-i-do-a-case-insensitive-string-comparison
unrelated to the issue, but comments and answers there describe a lot of
pitfalls and explain why string comparison ignoring case is not trivial.
(It is a Sisyphean task in some sense, I like the comment on 3 sigmas.)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-20 8:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-06 20:15 test-org-table/sort-lines: Failing test on macOS Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-10-07 12:04 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-08 5:25 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-08 14:27 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-09 3:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-10-09 15:38 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-10-09 16:53 ` Max Nikulin
2022-10-10 22:25 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-10-12 16:09 ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-15 4:10 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-20 4:18 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-20 8:00 ` Max Nikulin [this message]
2022-11-21 3:15 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-21 16:48 ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-22 1:14 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-22 16:01 ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-23 10:37 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-23 15:27 ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-23 17:01 ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-26 2:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-29 16:40 ` Max Nikulin
2024-04-03 11:40 ` [DISCUSSION] Sorting strings in Org mode vs. system locale (was: test-org-table/sort-lines: Failing test on macOS) Ihor Radchenko
2024-05-05 11:59 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-05-07 11:06 ` [DISCUSSION] Sorting strings in Org mode vs. system locale Max Nikulin
2024-05-07 13:09 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-05-07 16:47 ` Max Nikulin
2024-05-11 9:38 ` Ihor Radchenko
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