Re: Best android app

[Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>]

On 20/10/2022 06:46, Jean Louis wrote:
> * Max Nikulin [2022-10-19 15:53]:

>> The person may be already familiar with that non-free apps. We had
>> a chance to ask about features missed in free applications and actual
>> experience. Perhaps the same tasks may be performed in a bit different
>> and less obvious way and no modification of Org and Co is required.
>> However you insist that we have to through away such possibilities and
>> adding outcome from such conversations to web site is prohibited, so it
>> makes it significantly harder to use obtained information in later
>> discussions.

>> Better balanced position is necessary otherwise it would be just weakness in
>> communication with people who do not care if some software is free.
> 
> Then such people have the chance to learn what is free software. Their
> weakness is not to know what it is.

I mean weakness of free software proponents. People will learn nothing 
if they meet just unreasonably harsh reaction or absence of convincing 
arguments.

>>> I find it unfortunate that some people create proprietary software
>>> that uses Org files.
>>
>> It sounds like you regret about absence of a kind of vendor lock. File
>> formats and communication protocols must be free. There are enough examples
>> when free software can not be developed due to lack of specifications. Why
>> would you expect cooperation from vendors if you wish to have fences at your
>> side in similar cases?
> 
> Vendor:
> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Vendor

My mistake is that precise term should be "vendor lock-in". I am not a 
native English speaker, but I believe that the word "vendor" was used 
properly. I meant namely vendors, not suppliers.

> You have misunderstood the idea. I have never mentioned "absence of a
> kind of vendor lock" or similar.
> 
> So let us close that discussion and keep creating free software.

You expressed that you do not like that some proprietary software uses 
Org file. Such position is mirroring behavior of software vendors that 
are trying to prevent usage of file formats by other developers (vendor 
lock-in). More people considering restrictions on file formats 
acceptable means more obstacles for development of free software.