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From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] org-capture autoload bug? [9.5.2 (9.5.2-gfbff08 @ /home/ignacio/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.5.2/)]
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 19:04:29 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <t0pvce$11m6$1@ciao.gmane.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PAXPR06MB77602336C5ED470F8FC834CCC60F9@PAXPR06MB7760.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>

On 15/03/2022 02:43, Ignacio Casso wrote:
> I've also investigated the issue a little bit further and wrote and
> email with my conclusions about the same time Max wrote his. I comment
> inline about a few of your thoughts:
> 
>> For `defcustom' autoload generates no more than
>>
>>      (defvar org-capture-templates nil "...")
>>
>> It seems, behavior depends on whether `org-capture-templates' has the :set
>> attribute.
> 
> Not really, all defcustoms have a :set attribute, be it passed
> explicitly as a parameter or the default value, set-default. This issue
> happens with all autoload functions that use a custom variable: if they
> are called inside a let form binding that variable and the feature was
> not loaded yet, the let-binding will have no effect.

To avoid misunderstanding. I was testing with Emacs-26.3 (Ubuntu-20.04 
focal LTS system package) and did not explicitly set lexical binding 
cookie in an .el file. However defcustom autoloading was assumed.

;; simulate effect of ;;;###autoload
(defvar org-capture-templates nil)

(defun print-org-capture-templates ()
   (message "print-org-capture-templates")
   (pp org-capture-templates)
   (message "-----"))
(let ((org-capture-templates
        '(("d" "default" entry
	  (file "/tmp/capture-test.org")
	  "* %?"))))
   (print-org-capture-templates)
   (require 'org-capture)
   (print-org-capture-templates))

Second call of print-org-capture templates prints nil with original 
definition of `org-capture-templates' but it prints locally let-bound 
value if I comment out the :set attribute.

I am not disputing any observation from your thorough study
mid:PAXPR06MB7760A3031924BA897FD082E4C60F9@PAXPR06MB7760.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com
(it seems message delivery took several hours, so I noticed it after I 
sent my message).

Maybe it is reasonable to expect that let-binding should work with 
autoloading. I believe that loading of a file should be performed inside 
top-level scope, so it should ignore let-bound values. It is fragile 
when let-binding may affect global value of defcustom. However following 
call of just loaded function should be performed with regular stack of 
dynamic scopes. I am unsure if such behavior is feasible with elisp 
implementation.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-03-15 12:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-10 12:53 [BUG] org-capture autoload bug? [9.5.2 (9.5.2-gfbff08 @ /home/ignacio/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.5.2/)] Ignacio Casso
2022-03-10 16:32 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-10 18:00   ` Ignacio Casso
2022-03-11 10:07     ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-11 10:38       ` Ignacio Casso
2022-03-11 19:59         ` Tim Cross
2022-03-14 10:42           ` Ignacio Casso
2022-03-14 14:52           ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-14 18:42             ` Tim Cross
2022-03-14 19:43               ` Ignacio Casso
2022-03-14 22:54                 ` Tim Cross
2022-03-15  9:02                   ` Ignacio Casso
2022-03-15 15:59                     ` Ignacio Casso
2022-03-15 12:04                 ` Max Nikulin [this message]
2022-03-15 12:26                   ` Ignacio Casso
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-06-11  7:50 Ignacio Casso
2022-06-11 13:32 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-11 17:25   ` Ignacio Casso
2022-06-14  4:02     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-14  7:49       ` Ignacio Casso
2022-06-14 13:58         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12 12:36   ` Max Nikulin

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