From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] org-capture autoload bug? [9.5.2 (9.5.2-gfbff08 @ /home/ignacio/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.5.2/)]
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2022 19:04:29 +0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <t0pvce$11m6$1@ciao.gmane.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PAXPR06MB77602336C5ED470F8FC834CCC60F9@PAXPR06MB7760.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com>
On 15/03/2022 02:43, Ignacio Casso wrote:
> I've also investigated the issue a little bit further and wrote and
> email with my conclusions about the same time Max wrote his. I comment
> inline about a few of your thoughts:
>
>> For `defcustom' autoload generates no more than
>>
>> (defvar org-capture-templates nil "...")
>>
>> It seems, behavior depends on whether `org-capture-templates' has the :set
>> attribute.
>
> Not really, all defcustoms have a :set attribute, be it passed
> explicitly as a parameter or the default value, set-default. This issue
> happens with all autoload functions that use a custom variable: if they
> are called inside a let form binding that variable and the feature was
> not loaded yet, the let-binding will have no effect.
To avoid misunderstanding. I was testing with Emacs-26.3 (Ubuntu-20.04
focal LTS system package) and did not explicitly set lexical binding
cookie in an .el file. However defcustom autoloading was assumed.
;; simulate effect of ;;;###autoload
(defvar org-capture-templates nil)
(defun print-org-capture-templates ()
(message "print-org-capture-templates")
(pp org-capture-templates)
(message "-----"))
(let ((org-capture-templates
'(("d" "default" entry
(file "/tmp/capture-test.org")
"* %?"))))
(print-org-capture-templates)
(require 'org-capture)
(print-org-capture-templates))
Second call of print-org-capture templates prints nil with original
definition of `org-capture-templates' but it prints locally let-bound
value if I comment out the :set attribute.
I am not disputing any observation from your thorough study
mid:PAXPR06MB7760A3031924BA897FD082E4C60F9@PAXPR06MB7760.eurprd06.prod.outlook.com
(it seems message delivery took several hours, so I noticed it after I
sent my message).
Maybe it is reasonable to expect that let-binding should work with
autoloading. I believe that loading of a file should be performed inside
top-level scope, so it should ignore let-bound values. It is fragile
when let-binding may affect global value of defcustom. However following
call of just loaded function should be performed with regular stack of
dynamic scopes. I am unsure if such behavior is feasible with elisp
implementation.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-15 12:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-10 12:53 [BUG] org-capture autoload bug? [9.5.2 (9.5.2-gfbff08 @ /home/ignacio/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.5.2/)] Ignacio Casso
2022-03-10 16:32 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-10 18:00 ` Ignacio Casso
2022-03-11 10:07 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-11 10:38 ` Ignacio Casso
2022-03-11 19:59 ` Tim Cross
2022-03-14 10:42 ` Ignacio Casso
2022-03-14 14:52 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-14 18:42 ` Tim Cross
2022-03-14 19:43 ` Ignacio Casso
2022-03-14 22:54 ` Tim Cross
2022-03-15 9:02 ` Ignacio Casso
2022-03-15 15:59 ` Ignacio Casso
2022-03-15 12:04 ` Max Nikulin [this message]
2022-03-15 12:26 ` Ignacio Casso
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-06-11 7:50 Ignacio Casso
2022-06-11 13:32 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-11 17:25 ` Ignacio Casso
2022-06-14 4:02 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-14 7:49 ` Ignacio Casso
2022-06-14 13:58 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12 12:36 ` Max Nikulin
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