From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: c47b535bb origin/main org-element: Remove dependency on ‘org-emphasis-regexp-components’
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2021 23:36:44 +0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <sndsiu$reb$1@ciao.gmane.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pmqtj09r.fsf@localhost>
On 21/11/2021 17:01, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
> Max Nikulin writes:
>
>> My draft version is attached. Ihor, thank you for inspiration. Feel free
>> to improve it. I hope, it makes problem more apparent to user who tries
>> to customize markers. Have I missed some undesired side effects?
>
>> Unfortunately with "set" type in defcustom "catch inappropriate" item is
>> not hidden for valid configuration.
>
> I am not very familiar with :set customisation. Could you elaborate what
> you mean? I do not understand what "catch inappropriate" refers to.
I am afraid of confusion of ":set" defcustom parameter and "set" type in
":type" parameter.
I mean "set" instead of "repeat" (or "list" in your patch). It is
collection of *unique* items. Other variants allow to add several
entries for the same marker, e.g. "*". Set does not allow users to add
duplicated entries. I started from your description of allowed entries
and changed rigid "list" type to "set" and added (approximately)
(list :tag "Unsupported ignored"
(string :tag "Marker")
(choice :tag "Font"
(face :tag "Face")
(plist :tag "Property list"))
(option (const verbatim))
to notify user that some part of configuration does not work, it is
always shown in `customize-variable' interface, even as a disabled
option for default configuration.
With repeat, "Unsupported" options are not present in customization
buffer, unless user has something like
(custom-set-variables
'(org-emphasis-alist
(quote
(
("*" bold)
("_" underline)
("=" org-verbatim verbatim)
("/" italic)
("~" org-code verbatim)
("!" org-todo) ;; does not work
("+" (:strike-through t)))))
)
It is possible to add "seq" entry to catch list entries having
completely invalid structure, but I decided that it is redundant.
So with "repeat" type user may notice "Unsupported ignored" option in
customization interface. I think, it is not enough, so I added ":set"
function that issues a warning during load time. Invalid configuration
may still remain hidden in the case of `setq' instead of
`custom-set-variables' in the init file or `eval-after-load' hook. I am
afraid, nothing could be done to reliably detect the last case.
>> + ... It is possible to customize
>> +~org-emphasis-alist~ variable, but it will be deprecated.
>
> We probably do not need to mention to-be-deprecated variables in manual.
> It will only confuse users.
I do not insist. My intention is to inform users that wide spread
recipes should be avoided.
> Maybe we should also take a chance and deprecate org-emphasis-alist now?
> We can introduce org-bold/italics/... faces and use them in
> org-emphasis-alist default value.
I do not mind. I have never experimented with themes, so I would leave
this part of work to someone else.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-21 16:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-15 0:53 c47b535bb origin/main org-element: Remove dependency on ‘org-emphasis-regexp-components’ Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-15 9:56 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-11-15 15:20 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-15 16:25 ` Max Nikulin
2021-11-16 7:43 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-16 21:56 ` Samuel Wales
2021-11-16 22:16 ` Samuel Wales
2021-11-17 16:44 ` Max Nikulin
2021-11-17 22:44 ` Samuel Wales
2021-11-18 12:25 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-18 12:35 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-11-18 12:55 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-19 8:18 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-11-19 11:38 ` [PATCH] " Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-19 12:37 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-11-19 13:53 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-20 18:25 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-11-21 9:28 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-22 18:44 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-11-23 14:28 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-27 12:16 ` org parser and priorities of inline elements Max Nikulin
2021-11-27 19:02 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2023-07-17 11:51 ` Org markup and non-ASCII punctuation (was: org parser and priorities of inline elements) Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-18 0:03 ` Tom Gillespie
2023-07-18 5:07 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-18 5:40 ` Tom Gillespie
2023-07-18 9:45 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-19 16:34 ` c47b535bb origin/main org-element: Remove dependency on ‘org-emphasis-regexp-components’ Max Nikulin
2021-11-20 12:02 ` Max Nikulin
2021-11-21 10:01 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-21 16:36 ` Max Nikulin [this message]
2021-11-23 17:05 ` [PATCH] org.el: Warning for unsupported markers in `org-set-emphasis-alist' Max Nikulin
2022-11-04 6:53 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-11-04 12:31 ` Max Nikulin
2022-11-05 8:21 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-02 10:53 ` [PATCH v5] " Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-06 15:11 ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-06 16:49 ` Max Nikulin
2023-02-07 10:47 ` Should we obsolete org-emphasis-alist? (was: [PATCH v5] org.el: Warning for unsupported markers in `org-set-emphasis-alist') Ihor Radchenko
2023-02-07 12:22 ` Timothy
2023-02-09 12:11 ` Max Nikulin
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