From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Cc: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Re: c47b535bb origin/main org-element: Remove dependency on ‘org-emphasis-regexp-components’
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 21:53:16 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h7c89rqr.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zgq02ueq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
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Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:
>> +Sometimes, Org mode has difficulties recognising markup. It usually
>> +happens when markup marker symbols are present inside verbatim or code
>> +blocks:
>
> I disagree with the wording. Org mode has no difficulties recognizing
> markup nor does it parses text incorrectly. This is similar to the well
> known surprise:
>
> #+begin_example
> * something
> #+end_example
>
> Here, we are simply fooled by the fontification process.
>
> Otherwise, the patch looks good to me.
I updated the patch. If you have no objections on the new wording, I
will push it to main.
>> + ;; Verify that we are at the right object.
>> + (let ((object (save-excursion
>> + (save-match-data
>> + (goto-char (match-beginning 2))
>> + (org-element-context)))))
>> + (and (memq (org-element-type object)
>> + '(bold italic verbatim code strike-through))
>> + (eq (match-beginning 2)
>> + (org-element-property :begin object))))))
>
> I sympathize with the idea. As long as fontification does not rely on
> the parser, we will face issues like the one at stake. So, ultimately,
> Org will hopefully move in that direction.
>
> However, I'm not convinced making such local changes is going to help us
> in the long run. It may be more fruitful to think this evolution
> globally, as it involves a fair bit of rewriting of the fontification
> process. For example, it may only be necessary to parse the part of the
> Org document being fontified only once, and then apply all fontification
> functions to the resulting tree rather than have each of them calling
> the parser, like the above.
>
> In any case, I think fontification deserves a dedicated thread, in
> addition to some love.
Ok. I will create a new discussion thread on fontification.
Best,
Ihor
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From a1a497a80578669ef1e96700aa592aadd8d0d7ec Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
Message-Id: <a1a497a80578669ef1e96700aa592aadd8d0d7ec.1637329857.git.yantar92@gmail.com>
From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 19:27:56 +0800
Subject: [PATCH] org-manual.org: Clarify how to handle markup ambiguity
* doc/org-manual.org (Emphasis and Monospace): Advice users to insert
zero width space when Org does not parse emphasized text correctly.
---
doc/org-manual.org | 11 +++++++++++
1 file changed, 11 insertions(+)
diff --git a/doc/org-manual.org b/doc/org-manual.org
index a38dbec4a..9615209a1 100644
--- a/doc/org-manual.org
+++ b/doc/org-manual.org
@@ -10818,6 +10818,17 @@ ** Emphasis and Monospace
~org-fontify-emphasized-text~ to ~nil~. To narrow down the list of
available markup syntax, you can customize ~org-emphasis-alist~.
+=*=, =/=, =_=, ===, and =~= symbols inside =verbatim= or ~code~ can
+sometimes produce unexpected markup. For example,
+
+#+begin_example
+/The whole line is supposed to be marked italic, but the following
+~user/?variable~ contains italics =/= marker and confuses Org parser/.
+#+end_example
+
+You can use zero width space to help Org sorting out the ambiguity.
+See [[*Escape Character]] for more details.
+
** Subscripts and Superscripts
:PROPERTIES:
:DESCRIPTION: Simple syntax for raising/lowering text.
--
2.32.0
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-19 14:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-15 0:53 Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-15 9:56 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-11-15 15:20 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-15 16:25 ` Max Nikulin
2021-11-16 7:43 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-16 21:56 ` Samuel Wales
2021-11-16 22:16 ` Samuel Wales
2021-11-17 16:44 ` Max Nikulin
2021-11-17 22:44 ` Samuel Wales
2021-11-18 12:25 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-18 12:35 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-11-18 12:55 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-19 8:18 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-11-19 11:38 ` [PATCH] " Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-19 12:37 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-11-19 13:53 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2021-11-20 18:25 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-11-21 9:28 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-22 18:44 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-11-23 14:28 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-27 12:16 ` org parser and priorities of inline elements Max Nikulin
2021-11-27 19:02 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-11-19 16:34 ` c47b535bb origin/main org-element: Remove dependency on ‘org-emphasis-regexp-components’ Max Nikulin
2021-11-20 12:02 ` Max Nikulin
2021-11-21 10:01 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-21 16:36 ` Max Nikulin
2021-11-23 17:05 ` [PATCH] org.el: Warning for unsupported markers in `org-set-emphasis-alist' Max Nikulin
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