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* outorg issue
@ 2015-08-12 21:51 Andreas Leha
  2015-08-13 14:30 ` John Kitchin
  2015-08-18 16:28 ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Leha @ 2015-08-12 21:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi all,

For quite some time now, I have to disable outshine/outorg [1] as it
does give me "Before first heading" (complete backtrace [2]) whenever I
open an org file followed by more issues actually using org mode.

I can even reproduce this with emacs -Q and a minimal configuration [3].

My system is:
: GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin13.4.0, NS appkit-1265.21 Version 10.9.5 (Build 13F1077))
:  of 2015-06-17
: Org-mode version 8.3beta (release_8.3beta-1264-g365c19)


Can anyone reproduce this and/or has a fix?  Or am I missing anything
obvious?

Thanks in advance!


Regards,
Andreas




[1] https://github.com/tj64/outshine
    https://github.com/tj64/outorg


[2] complete backtrace when opening a random org file

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Before first heading")
  signal(error ("Before first heading"))
  error("Before first heading")
  outline-back-to-heading()
  outline-flag-subtree(t)
  hide-subtree()
  (save-excursion (goto-char (point-min)) (hide-subtree) (show-children keep-levels) (condition-case err (while (outline-get-next-sibling) (hide-subtree) (show-children keep-levels)) (error nil)))
  hide-sublevels(1)
  org-overview()
  org-set-startup-visibility()
  org-mode()
  set-auto-mode-0(org-mode nil)
  set-auto-mode()
  normal-mode(t)
  after-find-file(nil t)
  find-file-noselect-1(#<buffer cellomics.org> "~/hipsci/cellomics/cellomics.org" nil nil "~/hipsci/cellomics/cellomics.org" (25636441 16777218))
  find-file-noselect("~/hipsci/cellomics/cellomics.org" nil nil t)
  find-file("~/hipsci/cellomics/cellomics.org" t)
  funcall-interactively(find-file "~/hipsci/cellomics/cellomics.org" t)
  call-interactively(find-file nil nil)
  command-execute(find-file)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---



[3] minimal startup file

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
;; outorg/outshine pre-requisite
(defvar outline-minor-mode-prefix "\M-#")

(add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "~/local/emacs/org-mode-install/lisp"))
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.\\(org\\  |org_archive\\|txt\\)$" . org-mode))

;; outorg/outshine
(add-to-list 'load-path "~/local/emacs/org-mode-in-comments/outorg/")
(add-to-list 'load-path "~/local/emacs/org-mode-in-comments/outshine")
(require 'outshine)
(add-hook 'outline-minor-mode-hook 'outshine-hook-function)
(setq outshine-use-speed-commands t)
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

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* Re: outorg issue
  2015-08-12 21:51 outorg issue Andreas Leha
@ 2015-08-13 14:30 ` John Kitchin
  2015-08-13 14:37   ` Andreas Leha
  2015-08-18 16:28 ` Bastien
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: John Kitchin @ 2015-08-13 14:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andreas Leha; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

I can only confirm I have had the same issue for a while. For me it is
mostly when I press shift-tab. regular tab works fine for cycling.

The problem seems to arise from the point moving to the beginning of the
buffer when outline-back-to-heading is called, which raises that
error. I don't have time today to dig much further. I hope that helps
get a solution though! I miss outshine!


Andreas Leha writes:

> Hi all,
>
> For quite some time now, I have to disable outshine/outorg [1] as it
> does give me "Before first heading" (complete backtrace [2]) whenever I
> open an org file followed by more issues actually using org mode.
>
> I can even reproduce this with emacs -Q and a minimal configuration [3].
>
> My system is:
> : GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin13.4.0, NS appkit-1265.21 Version 10.9.5 (Build 13F1077))
> :  of 2015-06-17
> : Org-mode version 8.3beta (release_8.3beta-1264-g365c19)
>
>
> Can anyone reproduce this and/or has a fix?  Or am I missing anything
> obvious?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
> Regards,
> Andreas
>
>
>
>
> [1] https://github.com/tj64/outshine
>     https://github.com/tj64/outorg
>
>
> [2] complete backtrace when opening a random org file
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Before first heading")
>   signal(error ("Before first heading"))
>   error("Before first heading")
>   outline-back-to-heading()
>   outline-flag-subtree(t)
>   hide-subtree()
>   (save-excursion (goto-char (point-min)) (hide-subtree) (show-children keep-levels) (condition-case err (while (outline-get-next-sibling) (hide-subtree) (show-children keep-levels)) (error nil)))
>   hide-sublevels(1)
>   org-overview()
>   org-set-startup-visibility()
>   org-mode()
>   set-auto-mode-0(org-mode nil)
>   set-auto-mode()
>   normal-mode(t)
>   after-find-file(nil t)
>   find-file-noselect-1(#<buffer cellomics.org> "~/hipsci/cellomics/cellomics.org" nil nil "~/hipsci/cellomics/cellomics.org" (25636441 16777218))
>   find-file-noselect("~/hipsci/cellomics/cellomics.org" nil nil t)
>   find-file("~/hipsci/cellomics/cellomics.org" t)
>   funcall-interactively(find-file "~/hipsci/cellomics/cellomics.org" t)
>   call-interactively(find-file nil nil)
>   command-execute(find-file)
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
>
>
> [3] minimal startup file
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> ;; outorg/outshine pre-requisite
> (defvar outline-minor-mode-prefix "\M-#")
>
> (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "~/local/emacs/org-mode-install/lisp"))
> (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.\\(org\\  |org_archive\\|txt\\)$" . org-mode))
>
> ;; outorg/outshine
> (add-to-list 'load-path "~/local/emacs/org-mode-in-comments/outorg/")
> (add-to-list 'load-path "~/local/emacs/org-mode-in-comments/outshine")
> (require 'outshine)
> (add-hook 'outline-minor-mode-hook 'outshine-hook-function)
> (setq outshine-use-speed-commands t)
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

--
Professor John Kitchin
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
@johnkitchin
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu

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* Re: outorg issue
  2015-08-13 14:30 ` John Kitchin
@ 2015-08-13 14:37   ` Andreas Leha
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Leha @ 2015-08-13 14:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi John,

Thanks for the confirmation!

Andreas


John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> I can only confirm I have had the same issue for a while. For me it is
> mostly when I press shift-tab. regular tab works fine for cycling.
>
> The problem seems to arise from the point moving to the beginning of the
> buffer when outline-back-to-heading is called, which raises that
> error. I don't have time today to dig much further. I hope that helps
> get a solution though! I miss outshine!
>
>
> Andreas Leha writes:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> For quite some time now, I have to disable outshine/outorg [1] as it
>> does give me "Before first heading" (complete backtrace [2]) whenever I
>> open an org file followed by more issues actually using org mode.
>>
>> I can even reproduce this with emacs -Q and a minimal configuration [3].
>>
>> My system is:
>> : GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin13.4.0, NS appkit-1265.21 Version 10.9.5 (Build 13F1077))
>> :  of 2015-06-17
>> : Org-mode version 8.3beta (release_8.3beta-1264-g365c19)
>>
>>
>> Can anyone reproduce this and/or has a fix?  Or am I missing anything
>> obvious?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andreas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/tj64/outshine
>>     https://github.com/tj64/outorg
>>
>>
>> [2] complete backtrace when opening a random org file
>>
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Before first heading")
>>   signal(error ("Before first heading"))
>>   error("Before first heading")
>>   outline-back-to-heading()
>>   outline-flag-subtree(t)
>>   hide-subtree()
>>   (save-excursion (goto-char (point-min)) (hide-subtree) (show-children keep-levels) (condition-case err (while (outline-get-next-sibling) (hide-subtree) (show-children keep-levels)) (error nil)))
>>   hide-sublevels(1)
>>   org-overview()
>>   org-set-startup-visibility()
>>   org-mode()
>>   set-auto-mode-0(org-mode nil)
>>   set-auto-mode()
>>   normal-mode(t)
>>   after-find-file(nil t)
>>   find-file-noselect-1(#<buffer cellomics.org> "~/hipsci/cellomics/cellomics.org" nil nil "~/hipsci/cellomics/cellomics.org" (25636441 16777218))
>>   find-file-noselect("~/hipsci/cellomics/cellomics.org" nil nil t)
>>   find-file("~/hipsci/cellomics/cellomics.org" t)
>>   funcall-interactively(find-file "~/hipsci/cellomics/cellomics.org" t)
>>   call-interactively(find-file nil nil)
>>   command-execute(find-file)
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>>
>>
>>
>> [3] minimal startup file
>>
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>> ;; outorg/outshine pre-requisite
>> (defvar outline-minor-mode-prefix "\M-#")
>>
>> (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name "~/local/emacs/org-mode-install/lisp"))
>> (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.\\(org\\  |org_archive\\|txt\\)$" . org-mode))
>>
>> ;; outorg/outshine
>> (add-to-list 'load-path "~/local/emacs/org-mode-in-comments/outorg/")
>> (add-to-list 'load-path "~/local/emacs/org-mode-in-comments/outshine")
>> (require 'outshine)
>> (add-hook 'outline-minor-mode-hook 'outshine-hook-function)
>> (setq outshine-use-speed-commands t)
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> --
> Professor John Kitchin
> Doherty Hall A207F
> Department of Chemical Engineering
> Carnegie Mellon University
> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> 412-268-7803
> @johnkitchin
> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu

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* Re: outorg issue
  2015-08-12 21:51 outorg issue Andreas Leha
  2015-08-13 14:30 ` John Kitchin
@ 2015-08-18 16:28 ` Bastien
  2015-08-18 19:53   ` Andreas Leha
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2015-08-18 16:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andreas Leha; +Cc: Thorsten Jolitz, emacs-orgmode

Hi Andreas,

Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:

> For quite some time now, I have to disable outshine/outorg [1] as it
> does give me "Before first heading" (complete backtrace [2]) whenever I
> open an org file followed by more issues actually using org mode.

Copying Thorsten as the author of outshine.el, hopefully he's be able
to dig deeper.

Thanks,

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: outorg issue
  2015-08-18 16:28 ` Bastien
@ 2015-08-18 19:53   ` Andreas Leha
  2015-08-18 20:11     ` Kaushal
  2015-08-18 20:35     ` Pip Cet
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Leha @ 2015-08-18 19:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi Bastien,

Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:
> Hi Andreas,
>
> Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:
>
>> For quite some time now, I have to disable outshine/outorg [1] as it
>> does give me "Before first heading" (complete backtrace [2]) whenever I
>> open an org file followed by more issues actually using org mode.
>
> Copying Thorsten as the author of outshine.el, hopefully he's be able
> to dig deeper.

Thanks, but my hopes are low.  Quoting from the top of outshine's github
readme [1]:

,----
| events in my life forced me away from Emacs and [...] I won't have the
| time to fix issues or code new features (though I will apply patches)
`----

Regards,
Andreas

[1] https://github.com/tj64/outshine

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* Re: outorg issue
  2015-08-18 19:53   ` Andreas Leha
@ 2015-08-18 20:11     ` Kaushal
  2015-08-18 22:26       ` Bastien
  2015-08-19  7:53       ` Andreas Leha
  2015-08-18 20:35     ` Pip Cet
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Kaushal @ 2015-08-18 20:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andreas Leha, emacs-orgmode

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I had submitted a pull request to solve this issue on that author's
outshine package page a couple of months back but as Andreas noted, the
author hasn't been able to maintain this stuff due to personal reasons.

You can fix this issue by manually making changes in your copy of outshine
as per this PR: https://github.com/tj64/outshine/pull/46/files

I use outshine daily and I needed to fix only outshine.el. Probably
outorg.el needs a similar fix?

On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 3:54 PM Andreas Leha <
andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> wrote:

> Hi Bastien,
>
> Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:
> > Hi Andreas,
> >
> > Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:
> >
> >> For quite some time now, I have to disable outshine/outorg [1] as it
> >> does give me "Before first heading" (complete backtrace [2]) whenever I
> >> open an org file followed by more issues actually using org mode.
> >
> > Copying Thorsten as the author of outshine.el, hopefully he's be able
> > to dig deeper.
>
> Thanks, but my hopes are low.  Quoting from the top of outshine's github
> readme [1]:
>
> ,----
> | events in my life forced me away from Emacs and [...] I won't have the
> | time to fix issues or code new features (though I will apply patches)
> `----
>
> Regards,
> Andreas
>
> [1] https://github.com/tj64/outshine
>
>
>

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* Re: outorg issue
  2015-08-18 19:53   ` Andreas Leha
  2015-08-18 20:11     ` Kaushal
@ 2015-08-18 20:35     ` Pip Cet
  2015-08-19  8:10       ` Andreas Leha
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Pip Cet @ 2015-08-18 20:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andreas Leha; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

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Hi,
can you confirm the issue only appears when the first line of the
buffer isn't an outline heading? I think it's easy enough to fix then,
and if you like you might want to try the patch I've attached.

It's bugged me for a while that `org-back-to-heading' et al throw
errors when they're used before the first heading, but I haven't
really come up with a better solution.

On 8/18/15, Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> wrote:
> Hi Bastien,
>
> Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:
>> Hi Andreas,
>>
>> Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:
>>
>>> For quite some time now, I have to disable outshine/outorg [1] as it
>>> does give me "Before first heading" (complete backtrace [2]) whenever I
>>> open an org file followed by more issues actually using org mode.
>>
>> Copying Thorsten as the author of outshine.el, hopefully he's be able
>> to dig deeper.
>
> Thanks, but my hopes are low.  Quoting from the top of outshine's github
> readme [1]:
>
> ,----
> | events in my life forced me away from Emacs and [...] I won't have the
> | time to fix issues or code new features (though I will apply patches)
> `----
>
> Regards,
> Andreas
>
> [1] https://github.com/tj64/outshine
>
>
>

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From 753f4e2723c493274d9e55c195296fe5d0b5773e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Philip <pipcet@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 20:24:13 +0000
Subject: [PATCH] Avoid error when first line of the buffer isn't a heading.

	* outshine.el (outline-hide-sublevels): Avoid error for files that
	don't begin with a heading.
	(outline-cycle): Avoid error for files that don't begin with a
	heading.
---
 outshine.el | 8 +++++---
 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/outshine.el b/outshine.el
index 9ccbd1f..aba5271 100644
--- a/outshine.el
+++ b/outshine.el
@@ -1826,8 +1826,9 @@ The old value is stored in
   (setq keep-levels (1- keep-levels))
   (save-excursion
     (goto-char (point-min))
-    (hide-subtree)
-    (show-children keep-levels)
+    (when (outline-on-heading-p)
+      (hide-subtree)
+      (show-children keep-levels))
     (condition-case err
       (while (outline-get-next-sibling)
         (hide-subtree)
@@ -2048,7 +2049,8 @@ may have changed."
             (message "SUBTREE")))
          (t
           ;; Default action: hide the subtree.
-          (hide-subtree)
+          (when (outline-on-heading-p)
+            (hide-subtree))
           (unless outshine-cycle-silently
             (message "FOLDED"))))))
 
-- 
2.5.0


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* Re: outorg issue
  2015-08-18 20:11     ` Kaushal
@ 2015-08-18 22:26       ` Bastien
  2015-08-19  7:53       ` Andreas Leha
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2015-08-18 22:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kaushal; +Cc: Andreas Leha, emacs-orgmode

Hi Kaushal,

thanks for sharing your solution.

Kaushal <kaushal.modi@gmail.com> writes:

> You can fix this issue by manually making changes in your copy of
> outshine as per this PR: https://github.com/tj64/outshine/pull/46/
> files
>
> I use outshine daily and I needed to fix only outshine.el. Probably
> outorg.el needs a similar fix?

Maybe Thorsten would be fine to have you as a maintainer for his
libraries?  Even temporarily?

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: outorg issue
  2015-08-18 20:11     ` Kaushal
  2015-08-18 22:26       ` Bastien
@ 2015-08-19  7:53       ` Andreas Leha
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Leha @ 2015-08-19  7:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi Kaushal,

Kaushal <kaushal.modi@gmail.com> writes:
> I had submitted a pull request to solve this issue on that author's outshine package page a couple of months back but as Andreas noted, the author hasn't been able to maintain this stuff
> due to personal reasons.
>
> You can fix this issue by manually making changes in your copy of outshine as per this PR: https://github.com/tj64/outshine/pull/46/files
>
> I use outshine daily and I needed to fix only outshine.el. Probably outorg.el needs a similar fix?
>

Thanks for your patch!  In my first quick tests, this seems to work
nicely!  Nothing seems to be needed for outorg.

Regards,
Andreas

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* Re: outorg issue
  2015-08-18 20:35     ` Pip Cet
@ 2015-08-19  8:10       ` Andreas Leha
  2015-08-19 14:23         ` Pip Cet
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Leha @ 2015-08-19  8:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi Pip,

Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com> writes:
> Hi,
> can you confirm the issue only appears when the first line of the
> buffer isn't an outline heading? I think it's easy enough to fix then,
> and if you like you might want to try the patch I've attached.
>
> It's bugged me for a while that `org-back-to-heading' et al throw
> errors when they're used before the first heading, but I haven't
> really come up with a better solution.

Thank you for your patch!  It seems as it breaks global visibility
cycling, though.

Regards,
Andreas

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* Re: outorg issue
  2015-08-19  8:10       ` Andreas Leha
@ 2015-08-19 14:23         ` Pip Cet
  2015-08-19 19:08           ` Kaushal
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Pip Cet @ 2015-08-19 14:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andreas Leha; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

On 8/19/15, Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> wrote:
> Thank you for your patch!  It seems as it breaks global visibility
> cycling, though.

Sorry about that, I really messed up there. Kaushal's patch should
work better, as long as there is at least one valid heading in the
file (if I try running it on an entirely empty org file, I can still
produce the error message with M-x outline-hide-sublevels).

I'd also like to second Bastien's suggestion, it would be excellent to
see this useful extension maintained again.

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* Re: outorg issue
  2015-08-19 14:23         ` Pip Cet
@ 2015-08-19 19:08           ` Kaushal
  2015-09-08 20:09             ` Thorsten Jolitz
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Kaushal @ 2015-08-19 19:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Pip Cet, Andreas Leha, tjolitz; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

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I don't know the outshine and outorg code in and out. But I wouldn't mind
keeping it maintained with the pull requests I get.

That said, adding Thorsten Jolitz to this discussion.
@Thorsten Would you mind making me (
https://github.com/tj64/outshine/pull/46 ) a temporary maintainer of your
outshine package on github. Or do you have anyone in mind you would take
this up? Thanks.

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 2:26 PM Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 8/19/15, Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> wrote:
> > Thank you for your patch!  It seems as it breaks global visibility
> > cycling, though.
>
> Sorry about that, I really messed up there. Kaushal's patch should
> work better, as long as there is at least one valid heading in the
> file (if I try running it on an entirely empty org file, I can still
> produce the error message with M-x outline-hide-sublevels).
>
> I'd also like to second Bastien's suggestion, it would be excellent to
> see this useful extension maintained again.
>
>

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* Re: outorg issue
  2015-08-19 19:08           ` Kaushal
@ 2015-09-08 20:09             ` Thorsten Jolitz
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Thorsten Jolitz @ 2015-09-08 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Kaushal <kaushal.modi@gmail.com> writes:

Hi all, Hi Bastien,


> I don't know the outshine and outorg code in and out. But I wouldn't
> mind keeping it maintained with the pull requests I get.
>
> That said, adding Thorsten Jolitz to this discussion.
> @Thorsten Would you mind making me (
> https://github.com/tj64/outshine/pull/46 ) a temporary maintainer of
> your outshine package on github. Or do you have anyone in mind you
> would take this up? Thanks.

sorry for being so late to the party, I didn't even notice the cc'd
messages, probably because I used to read this mailing list only via
gmane and filtered the posts from my mail inbox.

I feel bad anyway for the issues on github not taken care of, and while
I started to touch Emacs once in a while again, I'm afraid I won't be
much of a maintainer for these libraries in the future due to lack of
time and energy.
I used to simply apply patches untested on github, but that wasn't a
popular decision either.

So I'm very happy if somebody would like to take over (permanent)
maintainershisp. For me  outshine.el, outorg.el and navi-mode.el always
belonged together as the 'outshine suite', so to say, so I would prefer
to give them away as a bundle to a new maintainer (whoever that might
be, I'll leave that up to the Org Community and Maintainers).

I still find them quite usefull, I used them almost all the time when
programming or writing emails with emacs, and will do so in the future
whenever I touch Emacs.

So thanks in advance to the new maintainer, let me know (PM?) if I have
to do something in the course of changing maintainership

>     I'd also like to second Bastien's suggestion, it would be
>     excellent to
>     see this useful extension maintained again.

1+

-- 
cheers,
Thorsten

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2015-08-18 19:53   ` Andreas Leha
2015-08-18 20:11     ` Kaushal
2015-08-18 22:26       ` Bastien
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