Feature request - add a new heading with a lower level than current

Feature request - add a new heading with a lower level than current

[Charles Cave]

org-mode has the feature of entering M-RET to insert a heding with the same
level as current.

I would like a command to enter a new headline at a level BELOW the current
headline.  The command key binding could be a modificaton to M-RET maybe adding
the ctl or shift key.

The reason for this functionality is when using org-mode for brainstorming.
I want to quickly add more than one child heading to the current heading.
Adding the first child heading is slower because I have to do a M-RET
backspace backspace  asterisk (*) space the continue.  The next headline
is added with a M-RET.

Mindmapping programs call this a Rapid Fire brainstorming.   

If someone coud suggest how to modify the org-el code to do so this would be
great. I found references to overriding the self-insert-command function but couldn
find how M-Ret is implemented.

Thanks
Charles

Re: Feature request - add a new heading with a lower level than current

[William Henney]

Hi Charles

On Dec 10, 2007 4:03 PM, Charles Cave <charles_cave@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> I would like a command to enter a new headline at a level BELOW the current
> headline.  The command key binding could be a modificaton to M-RET maybe adding
> the ctl or shift key.
>
> The reason for this functionality is when using org-mode for brainstorming.
> I want to quickly add more than one child heading to the current heading.
> Adding the first child heading is slower because I have to do a M-RET
> backspace backspace  asterisk (*) space the continue.

Or you could just do "M-return M-right" - is that really too slow for you?

Cheers

Will



-- 

  Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica,
  Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia

Re: Feature request - add a new heading with a lower level than current

[Nick Dokos]

Charles Cave <charles_cave@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> The reason for this functionality is when using org-mode for brainstorming.
> I want to quickly add more than one child heading to the current heading.
> Adding the first child heading is slower because I have to do a M-RET
> backspace backspace  asterisk (*) space the continue.  The next headline
> is added with a M-RET.
> 

You don't need to do that: M-RET M-<right> does what you want, I think, and
it's both easy to type and mnemonically appropriate.

Nick

Re: Feature request - add a new heading with a lower level than current

[Adam Spiers]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 09:03:15AM +1100, Charles Cave wrote:
> org-mode has the feature of entering M-RET to insert a heding with the same
> level as current.
> 
> I would like a command to enter a new headline at a level BELOW the current
> headline.  The command key binding could be a modificaton to M-RET maybe adding
> the ctl or shift key.
> 
> The reason for this functionality is when using org-mode for brainstorming.
> I want to quickly add more than one child heading to the current heading.
> Adding the first child heading is slower because I have to do a M-RET
> backspace backspace  asterisk (*) space the continue.  The next headline
> is added with a M-RET.
> 
> Mindmapping programs call this a Rapid Fire brainstorming.   
> 
> If someone coud suggest how to modify the org-el code to do so this would be
> great. I found references to overriding the self-insert-command function but couldn
> find how M-Ret is implemented.

Hi Charles,

I suggested this a few months ago:

  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/2420/focus=2653

and Carsten kindly included a simplified version in the distribution:

  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/2420/focus=2653

Therefore you only need to bind keys to org-insert-subheading and
org-insert-todo-subheading to take advantage of the code.

M-RET is a useful binding to keep, so I personally bind M-j and M-J
for org-insert-subheading and org-insert-todo-subheading respectively
(actually I use my more complicated versions, but the suggestion still
applies).

HTH,
Adam

Re: Re: Feature request - add a new heading with a lower level than current

[Charles Cave]

> Will

> Or you could just do "M-return M-right" - is that really too slow for 
> you?

Thank you!  I hadn't thought of that.   Entering M-right is
easy because I am already holding the Meta key with my thumb
so it is just a matter of continuing to hold the thumb and hitting
the right arrow key.

Charles

Re: Feature request - add a new heading with a lower level than current

[Phil Jackson]

Charles Cave <charles_cave@optusnet.com.au> writes:

>> Or you could just do "M-return M-right" - is that really too slow for
>> you?
>
> Thank you!  I hadn't thought of that.  Entering M-right is easy
> because I am already holding the Meta key with my thumb so it is just
> a matter of continuing to hold the thumb and hitting the right arrow
> key.

[...]

On a side note; I use C-p, C-n, C-b and C-f for my basic navigation
meaning the cursor keys are free for me so in org I bind them to:

 ,----
 | (define-key org-mode-map [left] 'org-metaleft)
 | (define-key org-mode-map [right] 'org-metaright)
 | (define-key org-mode-map [up] 'org-metaup)
 | (define-key org-mode-map [down] 'org-metadown)
 `----

Making re-organisation of the headings really fast.

Cheers,
Phil

Re: Feature request - add a new heading with a lower level than current

[Rustom Mody]

On Dec 11, 2007 3:58 PM, Phil Jackson <phil@shellarchive.co.uk> wrote:
>
> On a side note; I use C-p, C-n, C-b and C-f for my basic navigation
> meaning the cursor keys are free for me so in org I bind them to:
>
>  ,----
>  | (define-key org-mode-map [left] 'org-metaleft)
>  | (define-key org-mode-map [right] 'org-metaright)
>  | (define-key org-mode-map [up] 'org-metaup)
>  | (define-key org-mode-map [down] 'org-metadown)
>  `----
>
> Making re-organisation of the headings really fast.
>
> Cheers,
> Phil

When working with lisp, Ive found it convenient to bind the
numeric-keypad keys to s-exp movement and leave the cursor-movement
keypad keys to character movement. ie

(define-key lisp-mode-map [kp-left] 'backward-sexp)
(define-key lisp-mode-map [left] 'backward-char) ;; the default
etc

For org mode you may want to try something analogous like:

(define-key org-mode-map [kp-left] 'org-metaleft)
(define-key org-mode-map [left] 'backward-char) ;; the default

Rustom