vertical spacing between lines in a list at odt-export

vertical spacing between lines in a list at odt-export

[Heinz Tuechler]

Dear All,

is there a way to modify the vertical spacing between lines in a list
when exporting to ODT?
For PDF-export
#+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{enumitem} together with
#+LATEX_HEADER: \setlist{noitemsep} or
#+ATTR_LATEX: :options [noitemsep]
work, but I did not find any hint regarding ODT-export.

best regards,

Heinz

Re: vertical spacing between lines in a list at odt-export

[Bastien]

Hi Heinz,

Heinz Tuechler <tuechler@gmx.at> writes:

> is there a way to modify the vertical spacing between lines in a list
> when exporting to ODT?

No -- but you can modify this from within LibreOffice.

HTH,

-- 
 Bastien

Re: vertical spacing between lines in a list at odt-export

[Heinz Tuechler]

Dear Bastien,

thank you for your answer. It helps to know that it's not possible in a
standard way.
Modifying it from within LibreOffice would mean to change every list by
hand.
For now I solve the problem by putting each list in a #+begin_verse ...
#+end_verse block. This is not ideal, but at least it can be done within
the org-file.

best regards,

Heinz

Bastien wrote/hat geschrieben on/am 04.09.2020 12:03:
> Hi Heinz,
>
> Heinz Tuechler <tuechler@gmx.at> writes:
>
>> is there a way to modify the vertical spacing between lines in a list
>> when exporting to ODT?
>
> No -- but you can modify this from within LibreOffice.
>
> HTH,
>

Re: vertical spacing between lines in a list at odt-export

[Bastien]

Hi Heinz,

Heinz Tuechler <tuechler@gmx.at> writes:

> Modifying it from within LibreOffice would mean to change every list by
> hand.

You can also create a dedicated ODT style and use it from within your
Org file -- see "Applying custom styles: the easy way" in the manual:

https://orgmode.org/manual/Applying-custom-styles.html

 To apply an ODT style to a particular file, use the
 ‘ODT_STYLES_FILE’ keyword as shown in the example below:

      #+ODT_STYLES_FILE: "/path/to/example.ott"

 or

      #+ODT_STYLES_FILE: ("/path/to/file.ott" ("styles.xml" "image/hdr.png"))

HTH,

-- 
 Bastien

Re: vertical spacing between lines in a list at odt-export

[Heinz Tuechler]

Dear Bastien,

thank you - I know that. The problem seems to be that in the odt-file
all lists, as well as all "normal" text share the same format. In my
German version of LibreOffice it is called "Textkörper".
So, if I modify that format in a ODT_STYLES_FILE it changes all the
"normal" text, not only the lists.
If I were able to assign a different format to lists, then your proposal
would be the optimal solution. Until now I did not find out, how to
assign such a different format to lists.

Why do I use lists at all? It is, because they offer a hierarchical way
of description, but, contrary to headings and subheadings, after the end
of a list, you jump to the same level as before the list. Instead with
headings and subheadings I think, I can go back to the level at the
beginning only by inserting a new (sub)heading of the desired level.
Maybe I am missing some alternative.

best regards,

Heinz

Bastien wrote/hat geschrieben on/am 05.09.2020 10:25:
> Hi Heinz,
>
> Heinz Tuechler <tuechler@gmx.at> writes:
>
>> Modifying it from within LibreOffice would mean to change every list by
>> hand.
>
> You can also create a dedicated ODT style and use it from within your
> Org file -- see "Applying custom styles: the easy way" in the manual:
>
> https://orgmode.org/manual/Applying-custom-styles.html
>
>  To apply an ODT style to a particular file, use the
>  ‘ODT_STYLES_FILE’ keyword as shown in the example below:
>
>       #+ODT_STYLES_FILE: "/path/to/example.ott"
>
>  or
>
>       #+ODT_STYLES_FILE: ("/path/to/file.ott" ("styles.xml" "image/hdr.png"))
>
> HTH,
>

Re: vertical spacing between lines in a list at odt-export

[Bastien]

Dear Heinz,

Heinz Tuechler <tuechler@gmx.at> writes:

> thank you - I know that. The problem seems to be that in the odt-file
> all lists, as well as all "normal" text share the same format. In my
> German version of LibreOffice it is called "Textkörper".
> So, if I modify that format in a ODT_STYLES_FILE it changes all the
> "normal" text, not only the lists.
> If I were able to assign a different format to lists, then your proposal
> would be the optimal solution. Until now I did not find out, how to
> assign such a different format to lists.

Perhaps you can send a feature request to the LibreOffice team?

> Why do I use lists at all? It is, because they offer a hierarchical way
> of description, but, contrary to headings and subheadings, after the end
> of a list, you jump to the same level as before the list. Instead with
> headings and subheadings I think, I can go back to the level at the
> beginning only by inserting a new (sub)heading of the desired level.
> Maybe I am missing some alternative.

Perhaps try M-RET in a heading or explore `org-adapt-indentation' (I'm
not sure I completely grok your need, hence the suggestions.)

Best,

-- 
 Bastien

Re: vertical spacing between lines in a list at odt-export

[Heinz Tuechler]

Dear Bastien,

thank you for you for patience. It is a minor issue, still I try to
explain by an example (see below).
If the example below is exported to LibreOffice I am happy with all the
format, except the vertical spacing between list elements, which results
from the vertical space after each paragraph in the "Textkörper" format.
I could change this format, but that would affect all paragraphs, not
only the lists.

BTW, there is a convenient solution for Latex-export
(https://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/47864/org-mode-set-separation-length-between-elements-of-a-list).

best regards,

Heinz



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Bastien wrote/hat geschrieben on/am 05.09.2020 16:19:
> Dear Heinz,
>
> Heinz Tuechler <tuechler@gmx.at> writes:
>
>> thank you - I know that. The problem seems to be that in the odt-file
>> all lists, as well as all "normal" text share the same format. In my
>> German version of LibreOffice it is called "Textkörper".
>> So, if I modify that format in a ODT_STYLES_FILE it changes all the
>> "normal" text, not only the lists.
>> If I were able to assign a different format to lists, then your proposal
>> would be the optimal solution. Until now I did not find out, how to
>> assign such a different format to lists.
>
> Perhaps you can send a feature request to the LibreOffice team?
>
>> Why do I use lists at all? It is, because they offer a hierarchical way
>> of description, but, contrary to headings and subheadings, after the end
>> of a list, you jump to the same level as before the list. Instead with
>> headings and subheadings I think, I can go back to the level at the
>> beginning only by inserting a new (sub)heading of the desired level.
>> Maybe I am missing some alternative.
>
> Perhaps try M-RET in a heading or explore `org-adapt-indentation' (I'm
> not sure I completely grok your need, hence the suggestions.)
>
> Best,
>