a repeater doesn't increment

a repeater doesn't increment

[Jude DaShiell]

I am likely doing this wrong but will describe what has been done.
I put an agenda time stamp into a field in test.org and add +4w to the end
of the time stamp inside the >.
I get on the left of the field column on the vertical character and type
control-space to set mark.
I move to the end of the field on the > sign and type space and another
vertical to close the column entry for that field.
Next I do control-c+x+v and am told strings are copied to the kill ring.
Next I move down one line and type control-y to yank those strings out of
the kill buffer and paste them on that line.
When this is done, I expected the time stamp to increment by 4 weeks.
What happened was the same information got copied down and it didn't
increment.
What am I doing wrong?

Re: a repeater doesn't increment

[Jude DaShiell]

Does enough material exist on werg tutorials that document how to get a
repeater operational?  That or maybe I don't understand repeaters.  Had
the repeater I tried to use worked correctly it would have advanced the
original date by 4 weeks when that date got copied down to another cell.
I selected the whole line including both verticals and perhaps this works
when only a time stamp is copied.


On Tue, 20 Jul 2021, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> I am likely doing this wrong but will describe what has been done.
> I put an agenda time stamp into a field in test.org and add +4w to the end
> of the time stamp inside the >.
> I get on the left of the field column on the vertical character and type
> control-space to set mark.
> I move to the end of the field on the > sign and type space and another
> vertical to close the column entry for that field.
> Next I do control-c+x+v and am told strings are copied to the kill ring.
> Next I move down one line and type control-y to yank those strings out of
> the kill buffer and paste them on that line.
> When this is done, I expected the time stamp to increment by 4 weeks.
> What happened was the same information got copied down and it didn't
> increment.
> What am I doing wrong?
>
>
>

Re: a repeater doesn't increment

[Henrik Frisk]

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Hi!

Den tors 22 juli 2021 03:49Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> skrev:

> Does enough material exist on werg tutorials that document how to get a
> repeater operational?  That or maybe I don't understand repeaters.  Had
> the repeater I tried to use worked correctly it would have advanced the
> original date by 4 weeks when that date got copied down to another cell.
> I selected the whole line including both verticals and perhaps this works
> when only a time stamp is copied.
>

Check out this explanation:

https://karl-voit.at/2017/01/15/org-clone-subtree-with-time-shift/

I find it helpful and most of the time i prefer to use the
org-clone-subtree-with-time-shift function as it gives me more control. In
general, the date notation (+1w) is intended for the agenda wiew.

Hope it helps,
/Henrik

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Re: a repeater doesn't increment

[Jude DaShiell]

Hi, thanks this approach should work fine!


On Thu, 22 Jul 2021, Henrik Frisk wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Den tors 22 juli 2021 03:49Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> skrev:
>
> > Does enough material exist on werg tutorials that document how to get a
> > repeater operational?  That or maybe I don't understand repeaters.  Had
> > the repeater I tried to use worked correctly it would have advanced the
> > original date by 4 weeks when that date got copied down to another cell.
> > I selected the whole line including both verticals and perhaps this works
> > when only a time stamp is copied.
> >
>
> Check out this explanation:
>
> https://karl-voit.at/2017/01/15/org-clone-subtree-with-time-shift/
>
> I find it helpful and most of the time i prefer to use the
> org-clone-subtree-with-time-shift function as it gives me more control. In
> general, the date notation (+1w) is intended for the agenda wiew.
>
> Hope it helps,
> /Henrik
>

Re: a repeater doesn't increment

[Nick Dokos]

Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> writes:

> Does enough material exist on werg tutorials that document how to get a
> repeater operational?  That or maybe I don't understand repeaters.  Had
> the repeater I tried to use worked correctly it would have advanced the
> original date by 4 weeks when that date got copied down to another cell.
> I selected the whole line including both verticals and perhaps this works
> when only a time stamp is copied.
>

I may be misunderstanding, but are you trying to fill a column in a table
with dates that are four weeks apart? If so, repeaters have nothing to do
with it (AFAIK). You need `org-table-copy-increment' to be set to 28.

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---

| date             | foo |
|------------------+-----|
| <2021-07-22 Thu> |     |
| <2021-08-19 Thu> |     |
| <2021-09-16 Thu> |     |
| <2021-10-14 Thu> |     |
| <2021-11-11 Thu> |     |
| <2021-12-09 Thu> |     |


* Code

#+begin_src elisp
(setq-local org-table-copy-increment 28)

#+end_src

#+RESULTS:
: 28

--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Then keep pressing `S-RET' to get the next date.


>
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2021, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>
>> I am likely doing this wrong but will describe what has been done.
>> I put an agenda time stamp into a field in test.org and add +4w to the end
>> of the time stamp inside the >.
>> I get on the left of the field column on the vertical character and type
>> control-space to set mark.
>> I move to the end of the field on the > sign and type space and another
>> vertical to close the column entry for that field.
>> Next I do control-c+x+v and am told strings are copied to the kill ring.
>> Next I move down one line and type control-y to yank those strings out of
>> the kill buffer and paste them on that line.
>> When this is done, I expected the time stamp to increment by 4 weeks.
>> What happened was the same information got copied down and it didn't
>> increment.
>> What am I doing wrong?
>>
>>
>>
>
>

-- 
Nick

"There are only two hard problems in computer science: cache
invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors." -Martin Fowler

Re: a repeater doesn't increment

[Jude DaShiell]

What I'm trying to do is more complex than that.
* Reorder pills
** TODO order hctz, lisinipril, metformin, provacol, claritin, Co-q10,
   Deadline: <8-2-2021 +4w>
** TODO order Colase
   Deadline: <10-13-2021 +14w>
** TODO order Turmerick
   Deadline: <8-30-2021 +8w>

On Thu, 22 Jul 2021, Nick Dokos wrote:

> Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> writes:
>
> > Does enough material exist on werg tutorials that document how to get a
> > repeater operational?  That or maybe I don't understand repeaters.  Had
> > the repeater I tried to use worked correctly it would have advanced the
> > original date by 4 weeks when that date got copied down to another cell.
> > I selected the whole line including both verticals and perhaps this works
> > when only a time stamp is copied.
> >
>
> I may be misunderstanding, but are you trying to fill a column in a table
> with dates that are four weeks apart? If so, repeaters have nothing to do
> with it (AFAIK). You need `org-table-copy-increment' to be set to 28.
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>
> | date             | foo |
> |------------------+-----|
> | <2021-07-22 Thu> |     |
> | <2021-08-19 Thu> |     |
> | <2021-09-16 Thu> |     |
> | <2021-10-14 Thu> |     |
> | <2021-11-11 Thu> |     |
> | <2021-12-09 Thu> |     |
>
>
> * Code
>
> #+begin_src elisp
> (setq-local org-table-copy-increment 28)
>
> #+end_src
>
> #+RESULTS:
> : 28
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> Then keep pressing `S-RET' to get the next date.
>
>
> >
> > On Tue, 20 Jul 2021, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> >
> >> I am likely doing this wrong but will describe what has been done.
> >> I put an agenda time stamp into a field in test.org and add +4w to the end
> >> of the time stamp inside the >.
> >> I get on the left of the field column on the vertical character and type
> >> control-space to set mark.
> >> I move to the end of the field on the > sign and type space and another
> >> vertical to close the column entry for that field.
> >> Next I do control-c+x+v and am told strings are copied to the kill ring.
> >> Next I move down one line and type control-y to yank those strings out of
> >> the kill buffer and paste them on that line.
> >> When this is done, I expected the time stamp to increment by 4 weeks.
> >> What happened was the same information got copied down and it didn't
> >> increment.
> >> What am I doing wrong?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Re: a repeater doesn't increment

[Nick Dokos]

Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> writes:

> What I'm trying to do is more complex than that.
> * Reorder pills
> ** TODO order hctz, lisinipril, metformin, provacol, claritin, Co-q10,
>    Deadline: <8-2-2021 +4w>
> ** TODO order Colase
>    Deadline: <10-13-2021 +14w>
> ** TODO order Turmerick
>    Deadline: <8-30-2021 +8w>
>
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2021, Nick Dokos wrote:
>
>> Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> writes:
>>
>> > Does enough material exist on werg tutorials that document how to get a
>> > repeater operational?  That or maybe I don't understand repeaters.  Had
>> > the repeater I tried to use worked correctly it would have advanced the
>> > original date by 4 weeks when that date got copied down to another cell.
>> > I selected the whole line including both verticals and perhaps this works
>> > when only a time stamp is copied.
>> >
>> >> I am likely doing this wrong but will describe what has been done.
>> >> I put an agenda time stamp into a field in test.org and add +4w to the end
>> >> of the time stamp inside the >.
>> >> I get on the left of the field column on the vertical character and type
>> >> control-space to set mark.
>> >> I move to the end of the field on the > sign and type space and another
>> >> vertical to close the column entry for that field.
>> >> Next I do control-c+x+v and am told strings are copied to the kill ring.
>> >> Next I move down one line and type control-y to yank those strings out of
>> >> the kill buffer and paste them on that line.
>> >> When this is done, I expected the time stamp to increment by 4 weeks.
>> >> What happened was the same information got copied down and it didn't
>> >> increment.
>> >> What am I doing wrong?
>> >>

I still don't understand: in your most recent response (at the top of this thread)
you are talking about headlines with DEADLINE added (which seems the right approach
to me: is there a problem with it?) But in your original mail, as well as in the followup, you are
taling about "field columns" and "vertical characters" and "cop[ying] down to another cell",
which seems to imply that you have an Org mode table somewhere.

Maybe you can elaborate a bit?
-- 
Nick

"There are only two hard problems in computer science: cache
invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors." -Martin Fowler

Re: a repeater doesn't increment

[Jude DaShiell]

I couldn't figure a way to make the field columns work for this many
different items.


On Tue, 27 Jul 2021, Nick Dokos wrote:

> Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> writes:
>
> > What I'm trying to do is more complex than that.
> > * Reorder pills
> > ** TODO order hctz, lisinipril, metformin, provacol, claritin, Co-q10,
> >    Deadline: <8-2-2021 +4w>
> > ** TODO order Colase
> >    Deadline: <10-13-2021 +14w>
> > ** TODO order Turmerick
> >    Deadline: <8-30-2021 +8w>
> >
> > On Thu, 22 Jul 2021, Nick Dokos wrote:
> >
> >> Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> writes:
> >>
> >> > Does enough material exist on werg tutorials that document how to get a
> >> > repeater operational?  That or maybe I don't understand repeaters.  Had
> >> > the repeater I tried to use worked correctly it would have advanced the
> >> > original date by 4 weeks when that date got copied down to another cell.
> >> > I selected the whole line including both verticals and perhaps this works
> >> > when only a time stamp is copied.
> >> >
> >> >> I am likely doing this wrong but will describe what has been done.
> >> >> I put an agenda time stamp into a field in test.org and add +4w to the end
> >> >> of the time stamp inside the >.
> >> >> I get on the left of the field column on the vertical character and type
> >> >> control-space to set mark.
> >> >> I move to the end of the field on the > sign and type space and another
> >> >> vertical to close the column entry for that field.
> >> >> Next I do control-c+x+v and am told strings are copied to the kill ring.
> >> >> Next I move down one line and type control-y to yank those strings out of
> >> >> the kill buffer and paste them on that line.
> >> >> When this is done, I expected the time stamp to increment by 4 weeks.
> >> >> What happened was the same information got copied down and it didn't
> >> >> increment.
> >> >> What am I doing wrong?
> >> >>
>
> I still don't understand: in your most recent response (at the top of this thread)
> you are talking about headlines with DEADLINE added (which seems the right approach
> to me: is there a problem with it?) But in your original mail, as well as in the followup, you are
> taling about "field columns" and "vertical characters" and "cop[ying] down to another cell",
> which seems to imply that you have an Org mode table somewhere.
>
> Maybe you can elaborate a bit?
>