From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [POLL] Setting `org-adapt-indentation' to nil by default?
Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 23:18:43 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YI8JIzE/2m/X5VEt@protected.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h7jl5xk5.fsf@gmail.com>
* Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com> [2021-05-02 11:52]:
>
> Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:
>
> > * Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> [2021-05-02 09:10]:
> >> Various discussions convinced me that `org-adapt-indentation' should
> >> be nil by default.
> >>
> >> With `electric-indent-mode' being activated by default in Emacs, the
> >> current behavior is that RET after a headline moves the point below
> >> the beginning of this headline, not the beginning of the line, which
> >> might surprise users.
> >>
> >> Indentation is quite sensitive: what do you think of setting a new
> >> default value of nil for `org-adapt-indentation' in Org 9.5?
> >
> > Yes, it should be nil just as it was in beginning.
> >
> > But there is one problem that I encountered since that was introduced,
> > namely I do like properties being indented under the first letter of
> > heading or on 3rd place.
> >
> > Like this below, however, C-c C-x p will create properties indented
> > only if org-adapt-indentation is t
> >
> > * Heading
> > :PROPERTIES:
> > :ARCHIVE: new
> > :END:
> >
> > But if org-adapt-indentation is nil, it will be like:
> >
> > * Heading
> > :PROPERTIES:
> > :ARCHIVE: new
> > :END:
> >
> > and I remember that behavior before the introduced change was that
> > properties were intended, which does look nicer for properties.
> >
> > But I definitely do not prefer cursor to come indentend after writing a header like:
> >
> > * Heading
> > C
> > ursor on C
> >
> >
>
> Sounds like you want the 'headline-data value for this variable. Please
> check the documentation.
If I set `org-adapt-indent' to 'headline-data, I get that same
behavior that after pressing ENTER on headline line, position becomes
indentend. So it does not make it right.
My favour was the behaviour how it was before introduction of
indentation change:
- after headline, cursors went to beginning of line; I find it
usable, as that is where I write text.
- if I ever wanted to enter properties with C-c C-x p, those were automatically
indented,
But OK I can personally get used, especially that I these months avoid
using any properties in Org mode.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-05-02 20:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-02 6:09 [POLL] Setting `org-adapt-indentation' to nil by default? Bastien
2021-05-02 7:13 ` Tim Cross
2021-05-02 8:06 ` Jean Louis
2021-05-02 8:47 ` Tim Cross
2021-05-02 20:18 ` Jean Louis [this message]
2021-05-02 22:25 ` Tim Cross
2021-05-03 7:41 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-03 10:15 ` Jean Louis
2021-05-02 8:56 ` Bastien
2021-05-02 8:59 ` Bastien
2021-05-02 20:24 ` Jean Louis
2021-05-02 20:21 ` Jean Louis
2021-05-02 20:22 ` Jean Louis
2021-05-02 10:07 ` Eric S Fraga
2021-05-02 15:01 ` Detlef Steuer
2021-05-02 15:44 ` Colin Baxter
2021-05-02 15:46 ` Amin Bandali
2021-05-02 18:11 ` Tom Gillespie
2021-05-02 18:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-02 18:48 ` Tom Gillespie
2021-05-02 19:20 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-03 10:11 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-05-02 18:31 ` Jim Porter
2021-05-02 20:44 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-03 7:33 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-03 8:06 ` Bastien
2021-05-03 12:53 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-03 13:40 ` Bastien
2021-05-03 14:57 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-06 14:50 ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-15 20:51 ` Bastien
2021-05-19 17:02 ` [PATCH] etc/ORG-NEWS: Suggest against disabling `electric-indent-mode' Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-20 12:25 ` Bastien
2021-05-19 17:08 ` [PATCH] org-faq.org: Expand "What is the best setup for indenting?" Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-19 18:06 ` Greg Minshall
2021-05-20 15:57 ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-21 2:45 ` Greg Minshall
2021-05-27 16:11 ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-21 9:38 ` Bastien
2021-05-20 12:28 ` Bastien
2021-05-19 17:08 ` [POLL] Setting `org-adapt-indentation' to nil by default? Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-02 21:07 ` Jack Kamm
2021-05-05 7:54 ` Bastien
2021-05-06 14:13 ` Bastien
2021-05-09 16:42 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-15 12:46 ` Bastien
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