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From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <arne_bab@web.de>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Cc: Amin Bandali <bandali@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [POLL] Setting `org-adapt-indentation' to nil by default?
Date: Mon, 03 May 2021 12:11:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v9803z4h.fsf@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87czu93zr7.fsf@gnu.org>

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Amin Bandali <bandali@gnu.org> writes:

> Bastien writes:
>
>> Various discussions convinced me that `org-adapt-indentation' should
>> be nil by default.
>>
>> With `electric-indent-mode' being activated by default in Emacs, the
>> current behavior is that RET after a headline moves the point below
>> the beginning of this headline, not the beginning of the line, which
>> might surprise users.
>>
>> Indentation is quite sensitive: what do you think of setting a new
>> default value of nil for `org-adapt-indentation' in Org 9.5?
>
> +1 from me as well.  I personally quite dislike indenting after headings
> with spaces, and instead use (add-hook 'org-mode-hook #'org-indent-mode)
> for the visual indentation effect, which I can easily toggle off when
> needed.

What’s important for me is that hitting enter on a headline does not
create indentation for the text.

I’ve been removing indentation manually ever since that change, and I
cannot just configure it out, because I often open org-files with emacs
-Q or on different systems. Therefore this default matters a lot for me.
With the current default I would have to change the default in every
emacs session on every docker or VM, and I would have to tell every new
org-user to start by changing the default just to be able to write
conveniently.

I made a point of slimming down my Emacs config, because I often sit at
a pristine emacs, and it is important for me that org-mode just works.
Before electric-indent-mode got enabled, it was one of the huge
strengths of org-mode that it just worked for most use-cases while
enabling everyone to customize it incrementally. And I vote to get that
back.

Best wishes,
Arne
-- 
Unpolitisch sein
heißt politisch sein
ohne es zu merken

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-03 10:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-02  6:09 Bastien
2021-05-02  7:13 ` Tim Cross
2021-05-02  8:06 ` Jean Louis
2021-05-02  8:47   ` Tim Cross
2021-05-02 20:18     ` Jean Louis
2021-05-02 22:25       ` Tim Cross
2021-05-03  7:41         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-03 10:15         ` Jean Louis
2021-05-02  8:56   ` Bastien
2021-05-02  8:59     ` Bastien
2021-05-02 20:24       ` Jean Louis
2021-05-02 20:21     ` Jean Louis
2021-05-02 20:22     ` Jean Louis
2021-05-02 10:07 ` Eric S Fraga
2021-05-02 15:01 ` Detlef Steuer
2021-05-02 15:44   ` Colin Baxter
2021-05-02 15:46 ` Amin Bandali
2021-05-02 18:11   ` Tom Gillespie
2021-05-02 18:19     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-02 18:48       ` Tom Gillespie
2021-05-02 19:20         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-03 10:11   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide [this message]
2021-05-02 18:31 ` Jim Porter
2021-05-02 20:44 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-03  7:33   ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-03  8:06     ` Bastien
2021-05-03 12:53       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-03 13:40         ` Bastien
2021-05-03 14:57           ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-06 14:50       ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-15 20:51         ` Bastien
2021-05-19 17:02           ` [PATCH] etc/ORG-NEWS: Suggest against disabling `electric-indent-mode' Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-20 12:25             ` Bastien
2021-05-19 17:08           ` [PATCH] org-faq.org: Expand "What is the best setup for indenting?" Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-19 18:06             ` Greg Minshall
2021-05-20 15:57               ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-21  2:45                 ` Greg Minshall
2021-05-27 16:11                   ` Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-21  9:38                 ` Bastien
2021-05-20 12:28             ` Bastien
2021-05-19 17:08           ` [POLL] Setting `org-adapt-indentation' to nil by default? Maxim Nikulin
2021-05-02 21:07 ` Jack Kamm
2021-05-05  7:54 ` Bastien
2021-05-06 14:13   ` Bastien
2021-05-09 16:42     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-05-15 12:46       ` Bastien

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