html export: row/column dividers in tables

html export: row/column dividers in tables

[Bill White]

I recently found a need for visible dividers (or "rules") between the
rows and columns of an org table exported to html.  The most recent
discussion of this that I could find on gmane was
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/1709/match=table+rules+html
from 2007, which concluded that such rules weren't supported, so here's
a kludgey workaround I found today:

#+BEGIN_HTML
<pre>
|----+----+----+----|
| a0 | b0 | c0 | d0 |
|----+----+----+----|
| a1 | b1 | c1 | d1 |
|----+----+----+----|
| a2 | b2 | c2 | d2 |
|----+----+----+----|
</pre>
#+END_HTML

It isn't pretty, but it works when you really need visual separation of
rows and columns.  Here's what it looks like in real life:

http://members.wolfram.com/billw/VerbatimTables.html

BTW, here's how I got the org-mode code sample onto the webpage:

#+begin_src org
#+BEGIN_HTML
<pre>
|----+----+----+----|
| a0 | b0 | c0 | d0 |
|----+----+----+----|
| a1 | b1 | c1 | d1 |
|----+----+----+----|
| a2 | b2 | c2 | d2 |
|----+----+----+----|
</pre>
#+END_HTML
#+end_src

Cheers -

bw
-- 
Bill White . billw@wolfram.com . http://members.wolfram.com/billw
"No ma'am, we're musicians."

Re: html export: row/column dividers in tables

[Matthew Lundin]

Hi Bill, 

If I understand your post correctly, I think this section of the manual
will help to accomplish what you are looking for---i.e., the creation of
special vertical lines in tables:

http://orgmode.org/manual/Column-groups.html#Column-groups

Also you change the appearance of tables using css. 

Best,
Matt

Bill White <billw@wolfram.com> writes:

> I recently found a need for visible dividers (or "rules") between the
> rows and columns of an org table exported to html.  The most recent
> discussion of this that I could find on gmane was
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/1709/match=table+rules+html
> from 2007, which concluded that such rules weren't supported, so here's
> a kludgey workaround I found today:
>
> #+BEGIN_HTML
> <pre>
> |----+----+----+----|
> | a0 | b0 | c0 | d0 |
> |----+----+----+----|
> | a1 | b1 | c1 | d1 |
> |----+----+----+----|
> | a2 | b2 | c2 | d2 |
> |----+----+----+----|
> </pre>
> #+END_HTML
>
> It isn't pretty, but it works when you really need visual separation of
> rows and columns.  Here's what it looks like in real life:
>
> http://members.wolfram.com/billw/VerbatimTables.html
>
> BTW, here's how I got the org-mode code sample onto the webpage:
>
> #+begin_src org
> #+BEGIN_HTML
> <pre>
> |----+----+----+----|
> | a0 | b0 | c0 | d0 |
> |----+----+----+----|
> | a1 | b1 | c1 | d1 |
> |----+----+----+----|
> | a2 | b2 | c2 | d2 |
> |----+----+----+----|
> </pre>
> #+END_HTML
> #+end_src
>
> Cheers -
>
> bw

Re: html export: row/column dividers in tables

[Bill White]

On Mon Mar 30 2009 at 23:44, Matthew Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org> wrote:

> Hi Bill, 
>
> If I understand your post correctly, I think this section of the manual
> will help to accomplish what you are looking for---i.e., the creation of
> special vertical lines in tables:
>
> http://orgmode.org/manual/Column-groups.html#Column-groups

Thanks, I'd missed that.

> Also you change the appearance of tables using css. 

I'll take a look.

Many thanks -

bw

> Best,
> Matt
>
> Bill White <billw@wolfram.com> writes:
>
>> I recently found a need for visible dividers (or "rules") between the
>> rows and columns of an org table exported to html.  The most recent
>> discussion of this that I could find on gmane was
>> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/1709/match=table+rules+html
>> from 2007, which concluded that such rules weren't supported, so here's
>> a kludgey workaround I found today:
>>
>> #+BEGIN_HTML
>> <pre>
>> |----+----+----+----|
>> | a0 | b0 | c0 | d0 |
>> |----+----+----+----|
>> | a1 | b1 | c1 | d1 |
>> |----+----+----+----|
>> | a2 | b2 | c2 | d2 |
>> |----+----+----+----|
>> </pre>
>> #+END_HTML
>>
>> It isn't pretty, but it works when you really need visual separation of
>> rows and columns.  Here's what it looks like in real life:
>>
>> http://members.wolfram.com/billw/VerbatimTables.html
>>
>> BTW, here's how I got the org-mode code sample onto the webpage:
>>
>> #+begin_src org
>> #+BEGIN_HTML
>> <pre>
>> |----+----+----+----|
>> | a0 | b0 | c0 | d0 |
>> |----+----+----+----|
>> | a1 | b1 | c1 | d1 |
>> |----+----+----+----|
>> | a2 | b2 | c2 | d2 |
>> |----+----+----+----|
>> </pre>
>> #+END_HTML
>> #+end_src
>>
>> Cheers -
>>
>> bw
>
>


Cheers -

bw
-- 
Bill White . billw@wolfram.com . http://members.wolfram.com/billw
"No ma'am, we're musicians."

Re: html export: row/column dividers in tables

[Carsten Dominik]

On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:20 PM, Bill White wrote:

> On Mon Mar 30 2009 at 23:44, Matthew Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Bill,
>>
>> If I understand your post correctly, I think this section of the  
>> manual
>> will help to accomplish what you are looking for---i.e., the  
>> creation of
>> special vertical lines in tables:
>>
>> http://orgmode.org/manual/Column-groups.html#Column-groups
>
> Thanks, I'd missed that.
>
>> Also you change the appearance of tables using css.
>
> I'll take a look.

Also, since today, latest git version, you can use

#+ATTR_HTML: border="2" rules="all" frame="all"

before the table to modify the default table tag.
If you always want lines, modify the default table tag
in `org-export-html-table-tag'.

- Carsten

Re: html export: row/column dividers in tables

[Bill White]

On Tue Mar 31 2009 at 09:36, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:20 PM, Bill White wrote:
>
>> On Mon Mar 30 2009 at 23:44, Matthew Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bill,
>>>
>>> If I understand your post correctly, I think this section of the
>>> manual
>>> will help to accomplish what you are looking for---i.e., the
>>> creation of
>>> special vertical lines in tables:
>>>
>>> http://orgmode.org/manual/Column-groups.html#Column-groups
>>
>> Thanks, I'd missed that.
>>
>>> Also you change the appearance of tables using css.
>>
>> I'll take a look.
>
> Also, since today, latest git version, you can use
>
> #+ATTR_HTML: border="2" rules="all" frame="all"
>
> before the table to modify the default table tag.
> If you always want lines, modify the default table tag
> in `org-export-html-table-tag'.

Thank you!  

Before I update from git (or whatever the terminology is - I'm a cvs
guy), could I persuade you to apply Nick Dokos' patch to org-exp.el?
His patch is in http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/11862, and
the problem it solves is described in my initial message in the thread,
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/11857.  In his patch
message, Nick offers a clear explanation of why the problem happens.

To summarize the problem, I'm prompted to kill a temp buffer when I
html-export an org file that contains these tags:

   #+begin_src message
   [...]
   #+end_src

so when I export the containing project, I have to babysit the process
and answer 'y' to each query about killing the temp buffer.  Here's a
full example that triggers the bug:

   #+begin_src message
   From: Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com>
   Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Buffer *temp* modified; kill anyway? 
   To: Bill White <billw@wolfram.com>
   Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
   Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:38:32 -0500 (from Gnus)
   Reply-To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com
   X-Sent: 1 hour, 9 minutes, 51 seconds ago
   Message-ID: <9344.1236191912@alphaville.usa.hp.com>
   #+end_src

(I like to provide fontified email excerpts in my per-project org files
for coworkers who read them on the web.)

Many thanks -

bw
-- 
Bill White . billw@wolfram.com . http://members.wolfram.com/billw
"No ma'am, we're musicians."

Re: html export: row/column dividers in tables

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi Bill,

I did apply Nick's patch on March 5,
commit 6ccc6b46528ad70f2f3267a7e40c70494f5c2192

If you are not comfortable with git, you can always get the
most recent snapshot at

    http://orgmode.org/org-snapshot.zip

or

    http://orgmode.org/org-snapshot.tar.gz

HTH

- Carsten

On Mar 31, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Bill White wrote:

> On Tue Mar 31 2009 at 09:36, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> On Mar 31, 2009, at 4:20 PM, Bill White wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon Mar 30 2009 at 23:44, Matthew Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Bill,
>>>>
>>>> If I understand your post correctly, I think this section of the
>>>> manual
>>>> will help to accomplish what you are looking for---i.e., the
>>>> creation of
>>>> special vertical lines in tables:
>>>>
>>>> http://orgmode.org/manual/Column-groups.html#Column-groups
>>>
>>> Thanks, I'd missed that.
>>>
>>>> Also you change the appearance of tables using css.
>>>
>>> I'll take a look.
>>
>> Also, since today, latest git version, you can use
>>
>> #+ATTR_HTML: border="2" rules="all" frame="all"
>>
>> before the table to modify the default table tag.
>> If you always want lines, modify the default table tag
>> in `org-export-html-table-tag'.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Before I update from git (or whatever the terminology is - I'm a cvs
> guy), could I persuade you to apply Nick Dokos' patch to org-exp.el?
> His patch is in http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/11862,  
> and
> the problem it solves is described in my initial message in the  
> thread,
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/11857.  In his patch
> message, Nick offers a clear explanation of why the problem happens.
>
> To summarize the problem, I'm prompted to kill a temp buffer when I
> html-export an org file that contains these tags:
>
>   #+begin_src message
>   [...]
>   #+end_src
>
> so when I export the containing project, I have to babysit the process
> and answer 'y' to each query about killing the temp buffer.  Here's a
> full example that triggers the bug:
>
>   #+begin_src message
>   From: Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com>
>   Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Buffer *temp* modified; kill anyway?
>   To: Bill White <billw@wolfram.com>
>   Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>   Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:38:32 -0500 (from Gnus)
>   Reply-To: nicholas.dokos@hp.com
>   X-Sent: 1 hour, 9 minutes, 51 seconds ago
>   Message-ID: <9344.1236191912@alphaville.usa.hp.com>
>   #+end_src
>
> (I like to provide fontified email excerpts in my per-project org  
> files
> for coworkers who read them on the web.)
>
> Many thanks -
>
> bw
> -- 
> Bill White . billw@wolfram.com . http://members.wolfram.com/billw
> "No ma'am, we're musicians."

Re: html export: row/column dividers in tables

[Nick Dokos]

Bill White <billw@wolfram.com> wrote:

> 
> Before I update from git (or whatever the terminology is - I'm a cvs
> guy), could I persuade you to apply Nick Dokos' patch to org-exp.el?
> His patch is in http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/11862, and
> the problem it solves is described in my initial message in the thread,
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/11857.  In his patch
> message, Nick offers a clear explanation of why the problem happens.
> 

Bill,

Carsten applied the patch on March 5. Here's the description:

commit 6ccc6b46528ad70f2f3267a7e40c70494f5c2192
Author: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
Date:   Thu Mar 5 00:01:50 2009 +0100

    Export: Fix problem with exporting message mode src regions
    
    Message-mode assigns auto-safe file names to temporary buffers, in the
    draft directory.  This causes problems when running message-mode in a
    temporary buffer with with-temp-buffer.  When the form tries to kill
    the buffer, is asks for saving it....
    
    This commit turns off the buffer-modified flag and so avoids the
    query.

HTH,
Nick