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From: Carsten Dominik <dominik@uva.nl>
To: Karl Voit <news1142@karl-voit.at>
Cc: org-mode list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: org-depend: dependencies between TODO entries in different files
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2016 07:44:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADn3Z2+rKQ2uL3QS-k-Oy0ccgMXPSUrFNVCQLmxpFqBu3jQM+w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2016-08-25T17-05-15@devnull.Karl-Voit.at>

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Hi,

I can take a look at that.  Unless Nicolas already is working on it, of
course.

One additional point is, of course, that org-depend is not part of the
core, but was written as a proof of concept.  Is anyone besides Karl using
it regularly?  I don't want to break anything by changing it.  Maybe it
would, in fact, be better to first look in the local file and then try
org-id-find.

Carsten

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Karl Voit <devnull@karl-voit.at> wrote:

> * Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote:
> > Hello,
>
> Hello Nicolas,
>
> > Karl Voit <devnull@Karl-Voit.at> writes:
> >
> >> Function org-depend-block-todo uses org-find-entry-with-id (from
> >> org.el) which is using org-find-property which starts with
> >> (goto-char (point-min)) not jumping to any other org-mode buffer.
> >>
> >> Is there a reason behind this design choice?
> >
> > What design choice?
>
> ... that org-depend is using the current document only.
>
> > 1. That `org-find-property' only searches in the current document?
> >
> > 2. That `org-depend-block-todo' uses `org-find-entry-with-id' instead of
> >    e.g., `org-id-find'?
> >
> > Property API assumes properties are local to the document. When you
> > search for property "FOO", it means "FOO" in the current buffer, not
> > "FOO" is some other random Org file somewhere in your hard-disk.
>
> Ah, good to know.
>
> Is there a document, where someone is able to learn those
> "meta-patterns" like "Property API assumes properties are local to
> the document"?
>
> > ID property is special for that matter.
>
> Clearly, when you take a look at "id:example-id".
>
> > Whenever Org sets such a property, it updates a location database
> > (which means ID properties shouldn't be changed "manually").
>
> Being curious: since I only set IDs manually (by typing them into
> the PROPERTIES drawer by myself), do I have to take care of
> "updating some database"?
>
> > So, ID property can efficiently be used to refer to remote
> > documents.
>
> ... which I find ultimately useful to get a "personal wiki".
>
> > As a consequence, it may be useful to use `org-id-find' and
> > fall-back to `org-find-property' in `org-depend-block-todo'.
> >
> >> Who is the current maintainer of org-depend.el? Carsten ist
> >> listed as author in the header.
> >
> > I guess nobody. Do you want to take care of it?
>
> Trust me: with my very limited knowledge of Elisp and Org-mode
> internals, you do not want to see a commit from my side that is
> something other than a typo fix or documentation. ;-)
>
> Can you do us the favour?
>
> Thanks for your insight!
>
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>

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-08  6:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-25 12:43 org-depend: dependencies between TODO entries in different files Karl Voit
2016-08-25 14:44 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2016-08-25 15:11   ` Karl Voit
2016-12-08  6:44     ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2016-12-08 10:16       ` Jorge Morais Neto
2016-12-08 11:11         ` Samuel Loury
2016-12-12 10:21         ` Jorge Morais Neto
2016-12-08 14:37       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2016-12-11 22:19       ` Christophe Schockaert
2016-12-12 11:57         ` Karl Voit
2016-12-12 13:57           ` Carsten Dominik
2016-12-12 15:17             ` Karl Voit
2016-12-12 22:23               ` Christophe Schockaert
2016-12-18 12:12               ` org-depend improvements: ID picker Karl Voit
2016-12-18 17:49                 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-12-20 20:01                   ` a general " Karl Voit
2016-12-20 21:21                     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-12-18 12:14               ` Automatically Generating IDs From Title and Date Karl Voit
2016-12-18 19:36                 ` Samuel Wales
2016-12-20 19:57                   ` Properties ID vs. CUSTOM_ID (was: Automatically Generating IDs From Title and Date) Karl Voit
2016-12-22 10:03                     ` Karl Voit
2016-12-22 14:29                       ` John Kitchin
2016-12-22 15:30                         ` Properties ID vs. CUSTOM_ID Karl Voit
2016-12-22 15:40                           ` John Kitchin
2016-12-22 19:23                             ` Christophe Schockaert
2016-12-22 15:54                           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-12-22 19:45                             ` Christophe Schockaert
2016-12-22 21:02                               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-12-22 21:31                                 ` Carsten Dominik
2016-12-22 21:39                                   ` Carsten Dominik
2016-12-22 21:40                                   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-12-22 22:19                                     ` Christophe Schockaert
2016-12-22 17:10                           ` Samuel Wales
2016-12-22 17:13                             ` Samuel Wales
2016-12-18 12:17               ` org-depend improvements: TRIGGER in Combination With Set SCHEDULED Karl Voit
2016-12-18 12:18               ` org-depend improvements: Canceled Tasks Do Cancel Their Dependencies as Well Karl Voit
2016-12-12 19:25             ` org-depend: dependencies between TODO entries in different files Samuel Wales
2016-12-12 21:13               ` Karl Voit
2016-12-18 19:27                 ` Samuel Wales

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