Xemacs installation, some clarification (21.4 and 21.5)

Xemacs installation, some clarification (21.4 and 21.5)

[Uwe Brauer]

Hello

It seems that even the most recent org version can be
compiled either under Xemacs 21.5.X or under Xemacs
21.4.X[1], provided the following two criteria are met:

    -  The Makefile is modified like this:

,----
| BATCH=$(EMACS) -batch -q -no-site-file -eval                             			\
|   "(setq load-path (cons (expand-file-name \"./lisp/\") (cons(expand-file-name \"./xemacs\") (cons \"$(lispdir)\" load-path))))"
`----


    -  org-freemind is modified by commenting out the
       (require 'rx)!


It is important to note, that rx cannot be used. I loaded rx
and tried to compile org-freemind  (with require 'rx)
or I included rx in the xemacs directory and run the Make
file in all cases I obtained.


,----
| While compiling org-freemind-convert-links-from-org:
|   !! Wrong type argument ((listp ?\[))
`----

Which looks serious. 

In any case with this workaround some functionality is
missed but you obtain a working org installation.

I suggest to add this to the documentation in  

http://orgmode.org/Changes.html#sec-1_1_2



regards


Uwe Brauer 
Footnotes:
[1]  I only tried it with mule support I am not sure about
     No Mule.

Re: Xemacs installation, some clarification (21.4 and 21.5)

[Carsten Dominik]

On Oct 14, 2010, at 12:19 PM, Uwe Brauer wrote:

>
>
> Hello
>
> It seems that even the most recent org version can be
> compiled either under Xemacs 21.5.X or under Xemacs
> 21.4.X[1], provided the following two criteria are met:
>
>    -  The Makefile is modified like this:
>
> ,----
> | BATCH=$(EMACS) -batch -q -no-site-file - 
> eval                             			\
> |   "(setq load-path (cons (expand-file-name \"./lisp/\")  
> (cons(expand-file-name \"./xemacs\") (cons \"$(lispdir)\" load- 
> path))))"
> `----


Hi Uwe,

what does the (expand-file-name \"./xemacs\") do?  The Org  
distribution no longer contains an xemacs directory.

>
>
>    -  org-freemind is modified by commenting out the
>       (require 'rx)!

This is annoying.  It is possible to expand the rx calls and inline  
the resulting regular expressions, but I guess Lennart would not want  
me to do this.  For me, rx regexps are more difficult to read than  
string ones because I have been working with the string represenations  
for such a long time.

You know what, I am going to ask Lennart if he would object....

I'll get back to you

- Carsten

>
>
> It is important to note, that rx cannot be used. I loaded rx
> and tried to compile org-freemind  (with require 'rx)
> or I included rx in the xemacs directory and run the Make
> file in all cases I obtained.
>
>
> ,----
> | While compiling org-freemind-convert-links-from-org:
> |   !! Wrong type argument ((listp ?\[))
> `----
>
> Which looks serious.
>
> In any case with this workaround some functionality is
> missed but you obtain a working org installation.
>
> I suggest to add this to the documentation in
>
> http://orgmode.org/Changes.html#sec-1_1_2
>
>
>
> regards
>
>
> Uwe Brauer
> Footnotes:
> [1]  I only tried it with mule support I am not sure about
>     No Mule.
>
>
>
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- Carsten

Re: Xemacs installation, some clarification (21.4 and 21.5)

[Uwe Brauer]

>>>>> On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:52:55 +0200, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Carsten,

   > Hi Uwe,

   > what does the (expand-file-name \"./xemacs\") do?  The Org
   > distribution no longer contains an xemacs directory.


Oops, I just downloades 7.01h and it does, here is the
structure:


  -rw-r--r--  1 oub oub 69590 Aug  7 09:00 Changes.org
  drwxr-xr-x  5 oub oub    56 Aug  7 09:00 contrib
  drwxr-xr-x  2 oub oub  4096 Aug  7 09:00 doc
  drwxr-xr-x  2 oub oub  4096 Oct 14 12:00 lisp
  -rw-r--r--  1 oub oub 12413 Oct 14 13:09 Makefile
  -rw-r--r--  1 oub oub  1308 Aug  7 09:00 README
  -rw-r--r--  1 oub oub  1007 Aug  7 09:00 request-assign-future.txt
  drwxr-xr-x  2 oub oub    48 Aug  7 09:00 xemacs  


So I don't understand



   > You know what, I am going to ask Lennart if he would object....

   > I'll get back to you

Good

Uwe 

Re: Xemacs installation, some clarification (21.4 and 21.5)

[Carsten Dominik]

On Oct 14, 2010, at 1:12 PM, Uwe Brauer wrote:

>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:52:55 +0200, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com 
>>>>>> > wrote:
>
> Hi Carsten,
>
>> Hi Uwe,
>
>> what does the (expand-file-name \"./xemacs\") do?  The Org
>> distribution no longer contains an xemacs directory.
>
>
> Oops, I just downloades 7.01h and it does, here is the
> structure:
>
>
>  -rw-r--r--  1 oub oub 69590 Aug  7 09:00 Changes.org
>  drwxr-xr-x  5 oub oub    56 Aug  7 09:00 contrib
>  drwxr-xr-x  2 oub oub  4096 Aug  7 09:00 doc
>  drwxr-xr-x  2 oub oub  4096 Oct 14 12:00 lisp
>  -rw-r--r--  1 oub oub 12413 Oct 14 13:09 Makefile
>  -rw-r--r--  1 oub oub  1308 Aug  7 09:00 README
>  -rw-r--r--  1 oub oub  1007 Aug  7 09:00 request-assign-future.txt
>  drwxr-xr-x  2 oub oub    48 Aug  7 09:00 xemacs
>
>
> So I don't understand

I did remove this directory after th 7.01 release, so it will no  
longer be in 7.02.  It is no longer needed, our noutline.el is now in  
XEmacs.

- Carsten