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From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Carsten Dominik <dominik@uva.nl>
Cc: Org-Mode List <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Support (or not) for Emacs 21, and XEmacs
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 12:27:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <B35CC6D0-AB73-4988-9574-06D09251CF42@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ADBC18A1-BFD0-4090-A014-68A011F982FE@uva.nl>


On Apr 16, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have made a test version of Org with the compatibility code

I am such a bad writer.

I mean with that compatibility code *removed*!

- Carsten


> for XEmacs and without some of the left-over compatibility
> code for Emacs 21.
>
> I would appreciate if some people could check out the
> `remove-compatibility-code' branch from repo.or.cz and report back
> if they experience any problems with Emacs 22, 23, and 24, either
> during compilation or while running.
>
> Problems with Emacs 21 and XEmacs do not have to be reported.... :-)
>
> Thank you very much
>
> - Carsten
>
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:15 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I am, once again, reconsidering support for Emacs 21 and XEmacs
>> in Org-mode.
>>
>> Supporting older versions of Emacsen does make the code in
>> Org-mode more complex, needs time to rewrite or copy features
>> that do exist in newer versions of Emacs.  Also, it slows down
>> the process of updating the version of Org-mode distributed
>> with Emacs, because the compatibility code makes it often hard to
>> comply with Emacs rules and practices.
>>
>> What I would like to do is the following.
>>
>> We are now working toward release 7.0 of Org-mode, which will
>> hopefully see full integration of org-babel.  I am considering
>> to make Org-mode version 6.35 the last version of Org-mode
>> supporting XEmacs and Emacs 21.  That would mean that I would
>> still fix critical bugs in 6.35 and keep that package on the
>> website indefinitely.  So people stuck with Emacs 21 and XEmacs do
>> have an excellent version of Org-mode available.  Git users will
>> be able indefinitely to select this version of Org-mode to support
>> and Emacs 21 or XEmacs installation.
>>
>> For version 7.0 I would then not only stop actively supporting
>> these older Emacsen, but I would actually remove some of the
>> twisted code that has accumulated over the years in order to
>> support older versions.  Important examples are all the
>> stuff in org-compat, but also key bindings and other stuff.  There
>> are about 100 cases of (featurep 'xemacs) in the sources, and many
>> other places where I have to check for the availablility of a
>> specific feature or function.
>>
>> If you object to such a development, please step into this
>> discussion.
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>>
>>
>
> - Carsten
>
>
>

- Carsten

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-16 10:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-14  8:15 Support (or not) for Emacs 21, and XEmacs Carsten Dominik
2010-04-16 10:26 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-16 10:27   ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2010-04-16 12:19   ` Matt Lundin
2010-04-16 16:41     ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-16 13:03   ` Sebastian Rose
2010-04-16 13:13     ` Bernt Hansen
2010-04-16 14:39       ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-16 14:42         ` Bernt Hansen
2010-04-16 14:42           ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-16 19:15             ` Bernt Hansen
2010-04-16 22:02               ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-16 13:32     ` Rémi Vanicat
2010-04-16 13:56       ` Sebastian Rose
2010-04-16 13:07   ` Jan Böcker
2010-04-16 13:47   ` Günter Kolousek
2010-04-17 15:39 ` Michael Sperber
2010-04-17 20:31   ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-18  8:22     ` Michael Sperber
2010-04-18 14:03       ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-19 11:00         ` Michael Sperber
2010-04-19 11:19           ` Michael Sperber
2010-04-19 15:51             ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-19 15:54               ` Michael Sperber
2010-04-19 15:55                 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-19 15:59           ` Carsten Dominik
2010-05-07  7:51           ` Carsten Dominik
2010-05-07  8:30             ` Michael Sperber
2010-05-07  9:21               ` Carsten Dominik
2010-04-23 15:50         ` Michael Sperber
2010-04-23 19:03           ` Carsten Dominik

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