From: Arthur Miller <email@example.com> To: Christopher Dimech <firstname.lastname@example.org> Cc: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <email@example.com>, firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: Re: The fate of ditaa.jar (9.4.5.) Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 20:56:09 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <AM9PR09MB49771EBA5C1F40E5468774E296539@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <trinity-4cc10d70-2589-44d0-ad69-dd6c59a4cdd5-1620696144763@3c-app-mailcom-bs03> (Christopher Dimech's message of "Tue, 11 May 2021 03:22:24 +0200") Christopher Dimech <email@example.com> writes: > If org-mode wants to support ditaa, it is a requirement to inform the user how to > get the software and install it. Moving into into a separate repository without > appropriately telling the user introduces the problem that users will miss out > on free software that they would otherwise have used. Using org should not be made > more difficult than it already is. > Another problem I didn't mention in previous replay, is that user can have wrong (outdated) version of Java installed on his/her machine which might not be compatible with ditaa version org mode ships, which may introduce further questions and problems. IMO I think it is better to leave out 3rd party applications and let users install those on their own. >> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 8:49 AM >> From: "Arthur Miller" <firstname.lastname@example.org> >> To: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <email@example.com> >> Cc: firstname.lastname@example.org >> Subject: Re: The fate of ditaa.jar (9.4.5.) >> >> "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <email@example.com> writes: >> >> > Russell Adams <RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.Com> writes: >> > >> >> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 02:28:57PM +0300, Jarmo Hurri wrote: >> >>> I pulled the latest master and noticed that contrib has been moved into >> >>> a separate repository. I also cloned this contrib repository, but can >> >>> not find the file >> >>> >> >>> scripts/ditaa.jar >> >>> >> >>> in the repo. In fact, there is no directory scripts in the repo. >> >> >> >> I actually never considered this might be packaged with Org. I always >> >> thought I had to install it separately, like my Latex distribution or >> >> PlantUML. >> > >> > Bundling this makes ditaa code blocks just work. Otherwise they won’t >> > work on every org-install. >> >> The user still needs a Java runtime installed on his/her compute, so >> bundling ditaa.jar gives no guarantee at all that ditaa blocks will just >> work on every org-install. >> >> Instead a less informaed user, not used to run java programs, might be >> left with a not working application that fails silently or to the user >> incomprehensible error message. >> >> Better to point user to ditaa's sources/releases and inform it is >> optional with org. That way non-informed user will have to install java >> and ditaa and will at least have an idea where to look when things go wrong. >> >>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-05-11 19:00 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2021-05-10 11:28 Jarmo Hurri 2021-05-10 11:50 ` Eric S Fraga 2021-05-10 12:28 ` Russell Adams 2021-05-10 17:07 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide 2021-05-10 20:49 ` Arthur Miller 2021-05-11 1:22 ` Christopher Dimech 2021-05-11 18:56 ` Arthur Miller [this message] 2021-05-11 20:53 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide 2021-05-12 8:44 ` Arthur Miller 2021-05-12 9:41 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide 2021-05-12 14:51 ` Russell Adams 2021-05-13 12:44 ` Jarmo Hurri 2021-05-13 14:06 ` Arthur Miller 2021-05-13 20:08 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide 2021-05-14 1:13 ` Arthur Miller 2021-05-14 5:30 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide 2021-05-14 5:39 ` Christopher Dimech 2021-05-14 11:23 ` Arthur Miller 2021-05-14 11:57 ` Christopher Dimech 2021-05-10 18:41 ` Nick Dokos 2021-05-11 1:25 ` Christopher Dimech 2021-05-11 4:33 ` Tim Cross 2021-05-11 6:35 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide 2021-05-11 6:53 ` he " Christopher Dimech 2021-05-11 8:36 ` The " Tim Cross 2021-05-11 12:52 ` TEC 2021-05-11 19:15 ` Arthur Miller 2021-05-12 0:06 ` Tim Cross 2021-05-12 8:47 ` Arthur Miller 2021-05-15 17:31 ` [External] : " Daniel Ortmann 2021-05-11 19:02 ` Arthur Miller 2021-05-16 12:19 ` Bastien
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