* Is there some kind of verbatim environment for org? @ 2008-10-09 11:08 Tassilo Horn 2008-10-09 13:33 ` Sebastian Rose 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Tassilo Horn @ 2008-10-09 11:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Hi, in an org file I want to insert some ascii art graphics. In the docs I found the #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE construct, but that seems to take effect only when exporting. If I add my ascii graphic inside such a construct, I get a weired font-locking [1], and TAB and M-q work as if it was normal text and garble the graphic. Is there a mechanism to insert some text verbatim which supresses any indentation and font-locking (or uses some special face)? My org version is 6.06b. That's the one that is in the current Emacs CVS. Bye and thanks for org! Tassilo __________ [1] http://www.tsdh.de/~heimdall/org.png ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Is there some kind of verbatim environment for org? 2008-10-09 11:08 Is there some kind of verbatim environment for org? Tassilo Horn @ 2008-10-09 13:33 ` Sebastian Rose 2008-10-09 14:53 ` Tassilo Horn 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Sebastian Rose @ 2008-10-09 13:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist Hi Tassilo, with a current version of Org-mode you may press C-c ' to create such a region or edit an existing one. Not shure when this feature made it into org. But 6.09 has this feature. Hope that helps, Sebastian Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes: > Hi, > > in an org file I want to insert some ascii art graphics. In the docs I > found the #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE construct, but that seems to take effect only > when exporting. > > If I add my ascii graphic inside such a construct, I get a weired > font-locking [1], and TAB and M-q work as if it was normal text and > garble the graphic. > > Is there a mechanism to insert some text verbatim which supresses any > indentation and font-locking (or uses some special face)? > > My org version is 6.06b. That's the one that is in the current Emacs > CVS. > > Bye and thanks for org! > Tassilo > __________ > [1] http://www.tsdh.de/~heimdall/org.png > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > -- Sebastian Rose, EMMA STIL - mediendesign, Niemeyerstr.6, 30449 Hannover Tel.: +49 (0)511 - 36 58 472 Fax: +49 (0)1805 - 233633 - 11044 mobil: +49 (0)173 - 83 93 417 Email: s.rose@emma-stil.de, sebastian_rose@gmx.de Http: www.emma-stil.de ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Is there some kind of verbatim environment for org? 2008-10-09 13:33 ` Sebastian Rose @ 2008-10-09 14:53 ` Tassilo Horn 2008-10-09 15:10 ` Eric Schulte ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Tassilo Horn @ 2008-10-09 14:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de> writes: Hi Sebastian, > with a current version of Org-mode you may press C-c ' to create such > a region or edit an existing one. Not shure when this feature made it > into org. But 6.09 has this feature. Here it is: ,----[ C-h k C-c ' ] | C-c ' runs the command org-edit-special, which is an interactive compiled Lisp | function in `org.el'. | | It is bound to C-c ', <menu-bar> <Org> <Editing> <Edit Source Example>, | <menu-bar> <Tbl> <Calculate> <Edit Formulas>. | | (org-edit-special) | | Call a special editor for the stuff at point. | When at a table, call the formula editor with `org-table-edit-formulas'. | When at the first line of an src example, call `org-edit-src-code'. | When in an #+include line, visit the include file. Otherwise call | `ffap' to visit the file at point. `---- I guess, that's what you mean. But at least in my version, that's no too big improvement. Let's say I have this: #+BEGIN_SRC artist +-----+ (Abb. 23b) ENABLE------------------| & | +-----+ | | | >=1 | +-----| |---RUN | | | | | X-----| |-----+ +-----+ Y-----| | RUN---| | +-----+ #+END_SRC If I hit `C-c '' in that block, it'll open the graphic in artist mode. That's great, but still the graphic is font-locked like in the screenshot of my previous posting, because org thinks it's a table. And TAB in the first line moves point one line up and messages "Should not happen...". On other positions in the block, it indents like in text-mode, and on even other positions it acts like in org tables (Jump to the next "cell"). While I can live with TAB freaking out (Hey, `C-c '' switches to artist mode. Yay!), the broken font-locking is disturbing me. Is it possible to fontify everything in #+BEGIN...#+END blocks with some special face which takes precedence over the usual org font-locking? Bye, Tassilo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: Is there some kind of verbatim environment for org? 2008-10-09 14:53 ` Tassilo Horn @ 2008-10-09 15:10 ` Eric Schulte 2008-10-09 15:41 ` Tassilo Horn 2008-10-09 15:51 ` Sebastian Rose 2008-10-09 16:35 ` Carsten Dominik 2 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Eric Schulte @ 2008-10-09 15:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tassilo Horn; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes: > While I can live with TAB freaking out (Hey, `C-c '' switches to artist > mode. Yay!), the broken font-locking is disturbing me. Is it possible > to fontify everything in #+BEGIN...#+END blocks with some special face > which takes precedence over the usual org font-locking? > Are you aware of the other option for verbatim escapes? (every line starts with a ":") I does do a minor font locking, and (I believe) should fix your tab woes. Also, you can use C-c' in this area, and it will take you to special edit buffer. : +-----+ (Abb. 23b) : ENABLE------------------| & | : +-----+ | | : | >=1 | +-----| |---RUN : | | | | | : X-----| |-----+ +-----+ : Y-----| | : RUN---| | : +-----+ Best -- Eric ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: Is there some kind of verbatim environment for org? 2008-10-09 15:10 ` Eric Schulte @ 2008-10-09 15:41 ` Tassilo Horn 2008-10-09 16:21 ` Eric Schulte 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Tassilo Horn @ 2008-10-09 15:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eric Schulte; +Cc: emacs-orgmode "Eric Schulte" <schulte.eric@gmail.com> writes: Hi Eric, >> While I can live with TAB freaking out (Hey, `C-c '' switches to >> artist mode. Yay!), the broken font-locking is disturbing me. Is it >> possible to fontify everything in #+BEGIN...#+END blocks with some >> special face which takes precedence over the usual org font-locking? > > Are you aware of the other option for verbatim escapes? (every line > starts with a ":") No, thanks for mentioning that. > I does do a minor font locking, Nice. That's `org-code' face. So why not use that face for things in #+BEGIN...#+END blocks, too? > and (I believe) should fix your tab woes. No, but that's no problem if `C-c '' does the right thing. > Also, you can use C-c' in this area, and it will take you to special > edit buffer. Here, it prompts me for a file. That's because `org-edit-special' calls `ffap' if it doesn't know what to do. Is that different in your version? Anyway, I thinks the #+BEGIN_SRC constructs are better, because then the correct mode is switched on automatically. > : +-----+ (Abb. 23b) > : ENABLE------------------| & | > : +-----+ | | > : | >=1 | +-----| |---RUN > : | | | | | > : X-----| |-----+ +-----+ > : Y-----| | > : RUN---| | > : +-----+ So in summary I think I would be completely happy if #+BEGIN_SRC constructs (or maybe all #+BEGIN_FOO constructs) would fontify their contents with the `org-code' face. Bye, Tassilo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: Is there some kind of verbatim environment for org? 2008-10-09 15:41 ` Tassilo Horn @ 2008-10-09 16:21 ` Eric Schulte 2008-10-09 19:22 ` Tassilo Horn 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Eric Schulte @ 2008-10-09 16:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tassilo Horn; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes: >> Also, you can use C-c' in this area, and it will take you to special >> edit buffer. > > Here, it prompts me for a file. That's because `org-edit-special' calls > `ffap' if it doesn't know what to do. Is that different in your > version? > Yes, for me C-c' calls `org-edit-special', which ends up calling `org-edit-fixed-width-region' which then opens an *Org Edit Picture* buffer editing the graph in artist mode. I'm using the current version of org from git. Thanks -- Eric ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: Is there some kind of verbatim environment for org? 2008-10-09 16:21 ` Eric Schulte @ 2008-10-09 19:22 ` Tassilo Horn 2008-10-09 20:08 ` Eric Schulte 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Tassilo Horn @ 2008-10-09 19:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eric Schulte; +Cc: emacs-orgmode "Eric Schulte" <schulte.eric@gmail.com> writes: Hi Eric, >> Here, it prompts me for a file. That's because `org-edit-special' >> calls `ffap' if it doesn't know what to do. Is that different in >> your version? >> > > Yes, for me C-c' calls `org-edit-special', which ends up calling > `org-edit-fixed-width-region' which then opens an *Org Edit Picture* > buffer editing the graph in artist mode. I'm using the current > version of org from git. Ah, thanks. Then I need to update to the git version, or will that be synched to emacs trunk anytime soon? Could you please check if you get the same font-lock gibberish as I do with the graphic and reproduction recipe I posted as reply to Carsten a minute ago? Bye, Tassilo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: Is there some kind of verbatim environment for org? 2008-10-09 19:22 ` Tassilo Horn @ 2008-10-09 20:08 ` Eric Schulte 2008-10-09 22:15 ` Sebastian Rose 2008-10-10 6:57 ` Tassilo Horn 0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Eric Schulte @ 2008-10-09 20:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tassilo Horn; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes: > Ah, thanks. Then I need to update to the git version, or will that be > synched to emacs trunk anytime soon? > I don't know how often it syncs with emacs trunk. My guess is that it's not very frequently. > > Could you please check if you get the same font-lock gibberish as I do > with the graphic and reproduction recipe I posted as reply to Carsten a > minute ago? > I pasted the following into an org file, put the cursor in the middle and hit C-c' and it worked perfectly for me. I assume that this is because of our differences in org versions... : +-----+ (Abb. 23a) : ENABLE------------------| & | : +-----+ | | : | >=1 | +-----| |---RUN-+ : | | | | | | : X-----| |-----+ +-----+ | : Y-----| | | : +---| | | : | +-----+ | : | | : +-----------------------------------+ Best -- Eric > > Bye, > Tassilo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: Is there some kind of verbatim environment for org? 2008-10-09 20:08 ` Eric Schulte @ 2008-10-09 22:15 ` Sebastian Rose 2008-10-10 6:57 ` Tassilo Horn 1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Sebastian Rose @ 2008-10-09 22:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Eric Schulte wrote: > I pasted the following into an org file, put the cursor in the middle > and hit C-c' and it worked perfectly for me. I assume that this is > because of our differences in org versions... Same here. Works perfect. I also tried 'emacs -Q' and it works. No font wierdness. > : +-----+ (Abb. 23a) > : ENABLE------------------| & | > : +-----+ | | > : | >=1 | +-----| |---RUN-+ > : | | | | | | > : X-----| |-----+ +-----+ | > : Y-----| | | > : +---| | | > : | +-----+ | > : | | > : +-----------------------------------+ > > Best -- Eric > >> Bye, >> Tassilo > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: Is there some kind of verbatim environment for org? 2008-10-09 20:08 ` Eric Schulte 2008-10-09 22:15 ` Sebastian Rose @ 2008-10-10 6:57 ` Tassilo Horn 1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Tassilo Horn @ 2008-10-10 6:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eric Schulte; +Cc: emacs-orgmode "Eric Schulte" <schulte.eric@gmail.com> writes: Hi Eric, >> Could you please check if you get the same font-lock gibberish as I >> do with the graphic and reproduction recipe I posted as reply to >> Carsten a minute ago? >> > > I pasted the following into an org file, put the cursor in the middle > and hit C-c' and it worked perfectly for me. I assume that this is > because of our differences in org versions... Ok, then I'll get org from git. Thank a lot for testing that for me. Bye, Tassilo -- Richard Stallman spends his leasure time playing Duke Nukem Forever on GNU Hurd. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: Is there some kind of verbatim environment for org? 2008-10-09 14:53 ` Tassilo Horn 2008-10-09 15:10 ` Eric Schulte @ 2008-10-09 15:51 ` Sebastian Rose 2008-10-09 16:35 ` Carsten Dominik 2 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Sebastian Rose @ 2008-10-09 15:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist Hi Tassilo, is this true for regions created using C-c ' ??? There is no #+BEGIN_SRC then and it works perfectly fine here. Just create the region using C-c ' artist-mode is on automatically in the indirect buffer for editing the region. Regards, Sebastian Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes: > Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de> writes: > > Hi Sebastian, > >> with a current version of Org-mode you may press C-c ' to create such >> a region or edit an existing one. Not shure when this feature made it >> into org. But 6.09 has this feature. > > Here it is: > > ,----[ C-h k C-c ' ] > | C-c ' runs the command org-edit-special, which is an interactive compiled Lisp > | function in `org.el'. > | > | It is bound to C-c ', <menu-bar> <Org> <Editing> <Edit Source Example>, > | <menu-bar> <Tbl> <Calculate> <Edit Formulas>. > | > | (org-edit-special) > | > | Call a special editor for the stuff at point. > | When at a table, call the formula editor with `org-table-edit-formulas'. > | When at the first line of an src example, call `org-edit-src-code'. > | When in an #+include line, visit the include file. Otherwise call > | `ffap' to visit the file at point. > `---- > > I guess, that's what you mean. But at least in my version, that's no > too big improvement. Let's say I have this: > > #+BEGIN_SRC artist > +-----+ (Abb. 23b) > ENABLE------------------| & | > +-----+ | | > | >=1 | +-----| |---RUN > | | | | | > X-----| |-----+ +-----+ > Y-----| | > RUN---| | > +-----+ > #+END_SRC > > If I hit `C-c '' in that block, it'll open the graphic in artist mode. > That's great, but still the graphic is font-locked like in the > screenshot of my previous posting, because org thinks it's a table. > > And TAB in the first line moves point one line up and messages "Should > not happen...". On other positions in the block, it indents like in > text-mode, and on even other positions it acts like in org tables (Jump > to the next "cell"). > > While I can live with TAB freaking out (Hey, `C-c '' switches to artist > mode. Yay!), the broken font-locking is disturbing me. Is it possible > to fontify everything in #+BEGIN...#+END blocks with some special face > which takes precedence over the usual org font-locking? > > Bye, > Tassilo > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > -- Sebastian Rose, EMMA STIL - mediendesign, Niemeyerstr.6, 30449 Hannover Tel.: +49 (0)511 - 36 58 472 Fax: +49 (0)1805 - 233633 - 11044 mobil: +49 (0)173 - 83 93 417 Email: s.rose@emma-stil.de, sebastian_rose@gmx.de Http: www.emma-stil.de ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: Is there some kind of verbatim environment for org? 2008-10-09 14:53 ` Tassilo Horn 2008-10-09 15:10 ` Eric Schulte 2008-10-09 15:51 ` Sebastian Rose @ 2008-10-09 16:35 ` Carsten Dominik 2008-10-09 19:19 ` Tassilo Horn 2 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2008-10-09 16:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tassilo Horn; +Cc: emacs-orgmode On Oct 9, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Tassilo Horn wrote: > I guess, that's what you mean. But at least in my version, that's no > too big improvement. Let's say I have this: > > #+BEGIN_SRC artist artist-mode is a minor mode, the BEGIN_SRC construct is meant for major modes. The right solution for drawings like this is, as many people pointed out, a section of lines starting with ":". - Carsten ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: Is there some kind of verbatim environment for org? 2008-10-09 16:35 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2008-10-09 19:19 ` Tassilo Horn 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Tassilo Horn @ 2008-10-09 19:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Carsten Dominik <dominik@uva.nl> writes: Hi Carsten, > On Oct 9, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Tassilo Horn wrote: >> I guess, that's what you mean. But at least in my version, that's no >> too big improvement. Let's say I have this: >> >> #+BEGIN_SRC artist > > artist-mode is a minor mode, the BEGIN_SRC construct is meant for > major modes. Ah, right. Artist-mode is indeed a minor mode, but as soon as you toggle it on, the current major mode will be switched to picture-mode as well. So "#+BEGIN_SRC artist" enables picture-mode with artist-mode as minor mode, which works just beautiful. > The right solution for drawings like this is, as many people pointed > out, a section of lines starting with ":". I still get some font-locking weirdnesses. Here's an example: : +-----+ (Abb. 23a) : ENABLE------------------| & | : +-----+ | | : | >=1 | +-----| |---RUN-+ : | | | | | | : X-----| |-----+ +-----+ | : Y-----| | | : +---| | | : | +-----+ | : | | : +-----------------------------------+ The empty char (the linebreak char) behind the last | in line 8 is striked through, and everything in line 9 up to the second + is striked through. The last line has the same problem. I can reproduce that with: 1. Put the graphic into foo.org as posted above 2. emacs -Q 3. C-x C-f foo.org Bye, Tassilo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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