emacs 23.1 crash on small org file (org-version 6.36)

emacs 23.1 crash on small org file (org-version 6.36)

[Fritz Kunze]

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From:  <fkunze@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Bug: loading a small org file crashes emacs - no backtrace [6.36]
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I am a novice org-mode user.  I am trying to learn how to use some of the
features of org-mode to implement a GTD system.

Emacs crashes when I load a file (named todobug.org) containing the text
between the dashed lines (and not including the dashed lines).  It took some
time to get a small version of the file that reliably crashes (at least my)
emacs. I could not get a backtrace, because emacs simply crashes.  I am on a
windows vista machine.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
MY TASKS -*- mode: org; fill-column: 78; after-save-hook:
(archive-done-tasks)   -*-

#+STARTUP: indent
#+STARTUP: content

* Tasks
#+CATEGORY: Tasks
** TODO Buy dead companies! Michael Rabson of wsgr says that valuable
patents
can arise through this process.  Especially since it takes so long for a
patent to come through.  The company may be gone, but the patent might be
valuable.
  [2010-05-19 Wed]
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Emacs  : GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.0.6002)
 of 2009-07-29 on SOFT-MJASON
Package: Org-mode version 6.36

current state:
==============
(setq
 org-export-latex-after-initial-vars-hook '(org-beamer-after-initial-vars)
 org-todo-keyword-faces '(("TODO" :foreground "medium blue" :weight bold)
  ("APPT" :foreground "medium blue" :weight bold)
  ("NOTE" :foreground "brown" :weight bold)
  ("STARTED" :foreground "dark orange" :weight bold)
  ("WAITING" :foreground "red" :weight bold)
  ("DELEGATED" :foreground "dark violet" :weight bold)
  ("DEFERRED" :foreground "dark blue" :weight bold)
  ("SOMEDAY" :foreground "dark blue" :weight bold))
 org-special-ctrl-a/e t
 org-agenda-custom-commands '(("d" todo "DELEGATED" nil)
      ("c" todo "DONE|DEFERRED|CANCELLED" nil)
      ("w" todo "WAITING" nil)
      ("W" agenda "" ((org-agenda-ndays 21)))
      ("A" agenda ""
       ((org-agenda-skip-function
 (lambda nil
  (org-agenda-skip-entry-if (quote notregexp)
   "\\=.*\\[#A\\]")
  )
 )
(org-agenda-ndays 1)
(org-agenda-overriding-header
 "Today's Priority #A tasks: ")
)
       )
      ("u" alltodo ""
       ((org-agenda-skip-function
 (lambda nil
  (org-agenda-skip-entry-if (quote scheduled)
   (quote deadline) (quote regexp) "<[^>\n]+>")
  )
 )
(org-agenda-overriding-header
 "Unscheduled TODO entries: ")
)
       )
      )
 org-agenda-files '("~/mydrop~1/todo.org")
 org-completion-use-ido t
 org-after-todo-state-change-hook '(org-clock-out-if-current)
 org-export-latex-format-toc-function 'org-export-latex-format-toc-default
 org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-done t
 org-support-shift-select t
 org-export-preprocess-hook '(org-export-blocks-preprocess)
 org-tab-first-hook '(org-hide-block-toggle-maybe)
 org-src-mode-hook '(org-src-mode-configure-edit-buffer)
 org-confirm-shell-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
 org-export-first-hook '(org-beamer-initialize-open-trackers)
 org-clock-persist 'history
 org-todo-keywords '((sequence "TODO" "APPT" "|" "DONE" "NOTE"))
 org-agenda-before-write-hook '(org-agenda-add-entry-text)
 org-default-notes-file "~/mydrop~1/notes.org"
 org-directory "~/OrgProjects"
 org-insert-heading-hook '(bh/insert-inactive-timestamp)
 org-blank-before-new-entry '((heading) (plain-list-item))
 org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees org-cycle-hide-drawers
  org-cycle-show-empty-lines
  org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
 org-publish-project-alist '(("org-notes" :base-directory "~/org-init/"
      :base-extension "org" :publishing-directory
      "~/public_html/" :recursive t
      :publishing-function org-publish-org-to-html
      :headline-levels 4 :auto-preamble t)
     ("org-static" :base-directory "~/org-init/"
      :base-extension
      "css\\|js\\|png\\|jpg\\|gif\\|pdf\\|mp3\\|ogg\\|swf"
:publishing-directory "~/public_html/" :recursive t :publishing-function
org-publish-attachment)
     ("org" :components ("org-notes" "org-static"))
     ("publish-tutorial-notes" :base-directory
      "~/OrgProjects/" :base-extension "org"
      :publishing-directory "~/public_html/"
      :recursive t :publishing-function
      org-publish-org-to-html :headline-levels 4
      :auto-preamble t)
     ("publish-tutorial-static" :base-directory
      "~/OrgProjects/" :base-extension
      "css\\|js\\|png\\|jpg\\|gif\\|pdf\\|mp3\\|ogg\\|swf"
:publishing-directory "~/public_html/" :recursive t :publishing-function
org-publish-attachment)
     ("publish-tutorial" :components
      ("publish-tutorial-notes"
       "publish-tutorial-static")
      )
     ("B-inherit" :base-directory
      "~/OrgProjects/org-init" :recursive t
      :base-extension "css\\|js" :publishing-directory
      "~/public_html/B/" :publishing-function
      org-publish-attachment)
     ("B-notes" :base-directory "~/OrgProjects/B/"
      :auto-index t :index-filename "sitemap.org"
      :index-title "Sitemap" :recursive t
      :base-extension "org" :publishing-directory
      "~/public_html/B/" :publishing-function
      org-publish-org-to-html :headline-levels 4
      :auto-preamble t)
     ("B-static" :base-directory "~/OrgProjects/B/"
      :recursive t :base-extension
      "css\\|js\\|png\\|jpg\\|gif\\|pdf\\|mp3\\|ogg\\|swf"
:publishing-directory "~/public_html/B/" :publishing-function
org-publish-attachment)
     ("B" :components
      ("B-inherit" "B-notes" "B-static"))
     ("Personal-inherit" :base-directory
      "~/OrgProjects/org-init/" :recursive t
      :base-extension "css\\|js" :publishing-directory
      "~/public_html/Personal/" :publishing-function
      org-publish-attachment)
     ("Personal-notes" :base-directory
      "~/OrgProjects/Personal/" :auto-index t
      :index-filename "sitemap.org" :index-title
      "Sitemap" :recursive t :base-extension "org"
      :publishing-directory "~/public_html/Personal/"
      :publishing-function org-publish-org-to-html
      :headline-levels 4 :auto-preamble t)
     ("Personal-static" :base-directory
      "~/OrgProjects/Personal/" :recursive t
      :base-extension
      "css\\|js\\|png\\|jpg\\|gif\\|pdf\\|mp3\\|ogg\\|swf"
:publishing-directory "~/public_html/Personal/" :publishing-function
org-publish-attachment)
     ("Personal" :components
      ("Personal-inherit" "Personal-notes"
       "Personal-static")
      )
     ("Epistle-inherit" :base-directory
      "~/OrgProjects/org-init/" :recursive t
      :base-extension "css\\|js" :publishing-directory
      "~/public_html/Epistle/" :publishing-function
      org-publish-attachment)
     ("Epistle-notes" :base-directory
      "~/OrgProjects/Epistle/" :auto-index t
      :index-filename "sitemap.org" :index-title
      "Sitemap" :recursive t :base-extension "org"
      :publishing-directory "~/public_html/Epistle/"
      :publishing-function org-publish-org-to-html
      :headline-levels 4 :auto-preamble t)
     ("Epistle-static" :base-directory
      "~/OrgProjects/Epistle/" :recursive t
      :base-extension
      "css\\|js\\|png\\|jpg\\|gif\\|pdf\\|mp3\\|ogg\\|swf"
:publishing-directory "~/public_html/Epistle/" :publishing-function
org-publish-attachment)
     ("Epistle" :components
      ("Epistle-inherit" "Epistle-notes"
       "Epistle-static")
      )
     ("Pandorabots-inherit" :base-directory
      "~/OrgProjects/org-init/" :recursive t
      :base-extension "css\\|js" :publishing-directory
      "~/public_html/Pandorabots/"
      :publishing-function org-publish-attachment)
     ("Pandorabots-notes" :base-directory
      "~/OrgProjects/Pandorabots/" :auto-index t
      :index-filename "sitemap.org" :index-title
      "Sitemap" :recursive t :base-extension "org"
      :publishing-directory
      "~/public_html/Pandorabots/"
      :publishing-function org-publish-org-to-html
      :headline-levels 4 :auto-preamble t)
     ("Pandorabots-static" :base-directory
      "~/OrgProjects/Pandorabots/" :recursive t
      :base-extension
      "css\\|js\\|png\\|jpg\\|gif\\|pdf\\|mp3\\|ogg\\|swf"
:publishing-directory "~/public_html/Pandorabots/" :publishing-function
org-publish-attachment)
     ("Pandorabots" :components
      ("Pandorabots-inherit" "Pandorabots-notes"
       "Pandorabots-static")
      )
     ("Symnosis-inherit" :base-directory
      "~/OrgProjects/org-init/" :recursive t
      :base-extension "css\\|js" :publishing-directory
      "~/public_html/Symnosis/" :publishing-function
      org-publish-attachment)
     ("Symnosis-notes" :base-directory
      "~/OrgProejcts/Symnosis/" :auto-index t
      :index-filename "sitemap.org" :index-title
      "Sitemap" :recursive t :base-extension "org"
      :publishing-directory "~/public_html/Symnosis/"
      :publishing-function org-publish-org-to-html
      :headline-levels 4 :auto-preamble t)
     ("Symnosis-static" :base-directory
      "~/OrgProjects/Symnosis/" :recursive t
      :base-extension
      "css\\|js\\|png\\|jpg\\|gif\\|pdf\\|mp3\\|ogg\\|swf"
:publishing-directory "~/public_html/Symnosis/" :publishing-function
org-publish-attachment)
     ("Symnosis" :components
      ("Symnosis-inherit" "Symnosis-notes"
       "Symnosis-static")
      )
     )
 org-export-preprocess-before-normalizing-links-hook
'(org-remove-file-link-modifiers)
 org-use-speed-commands t
 org-mode-hook '(turn-on-font-lock org-clock-load
 #[nil "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
   [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-show-block-all
    append local]
   5]
 )
 org-return-follows-link t
 org-confirm-elisp-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
 org-fast-tag-selection-single-key 'expert
 org-agenda-start-on-weekday nil
 org-agenda-skip-deadline-if-done t
 org-reverse-note-order t
 org-insert-heading-respect-content t
 org-occur-hook '(org-first-headline-recenter)
 org-from-is-user-regexp nil
 org-export-preprocess-before-selecting-backend-code-hook
'(org-beamer-select-beamer-code)
 org-remember-templates '((116 "* TODO %?\n  %u" "~/mydrop~1/todo.org"
"Tasks")
  (110 "* %u %?" "~/mydrop~1/notes.org" "Notes"))
 org-icalendar-include-todo t
 org-export-latex-final-hook '(org-beamer-amend-header org-beamer-fix-toc
       org-beamer-auto-fragile-frames
       org-beamer-place-default-actions-for-lists)
 )

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Re: emacs 23.1 crash on small org file (org-version 6.36)

[Jan Böcker]

On 05/21/2010 01:43 AM, Fritz Kunze wrote:
> MY TASKS -*- mode: org; fill-column: 78; after-save-hook:
> (archive-done-tasks)   -*-

If my understanding is correct, archive-done-tasks is evaluated when the
file is loaded, which I guess is not your intention. (You want to set
after-save-hook to '(archive-done-tasks), not to the result of
evaluating (archive-done-tasks)).

I can imagine that this causes the crash (maybe org has not been fully
initialized for that buffer at this point?).

Try quoting (archive-done-tasks) like this:

MY TASKS -*- mode: org; fill-column: 78; after-save-hook:
'(archive-done-tasks)   -*-


HTH, Jan

Re: emacs 23.1 crash on small org file (org-version 6.36)

[Fritz Kunze]

Jan Böcker <jan.boecker <at> jboecker.de> writes:

> 
> On 05/21/2010 01:43 AM, Fritz Kunze wrote:
> > MY TASKS -*- mode: org; fill-column: 78; after-save-hook:
> > (archive-done-tasks)   -*-
> 
> If my understanding is correct, archive-done-tasks is evaluated when the
> file is loaded, which I guess is not your intention. (You want to set
> after-save-hook to '(archive-done-tasks), not to the result of
> evaluating (archive-done-tasks)).
> 
> I can imagine that this causes the crash (maybe org has not been fully
> initialized for that buffer at this point?).
> 
> Try quoting (archive-done-tasks) like this:
> 
> MY TASKS -*- mode: org; fill-column: 78; after-save-hook:
> '(archive-done-tasks)   -*-
> 
> HTH, Jan
> 
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May 21, 2010
Hi Jan,
  Thanks for offering a response. I inserted the quote, and sadly, emacs still 
crashes.  

  The code you referred to, I copied verbatim from a note from John Weigley 
(see: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/3629). I've been working my 
way through John Weigley's wonderful tutorial 
(http://www.newartisans.com/2007/08/using-org-mode-as-a-day-planner.html), and 
learning by studying his (amazingly good) lisp code.  That code, along with 
using John's set up, has worked perfectly.  I had a very large list of todos and 
was happily figuring things out, when suddenly emacs began to consistently 
crash.  At first I thought it was the archiving stuff and turned it off, but it 
did not affect the crashing.  Through trial and error, I reduced the file size 
to the one I sent out.  Strangely, changing just a few characters in this file 
(say in the note part), allows emacs to continue working again.

So I remain stumped.
Regards,
Fritz

Re: emacs 23.1 crash on small org file (org-version 6.36)

[Manish]

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Fritz Kunze wrote:
>
> From:  <fkunze@gmail.com>
> To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Bug: loading a small org file crashes emacs - no backtrace [6.36]
> --text follows this line--
> I am a novice org-mode user.  I am trying to learn how to use some of the features of org-mode to implement a GTD system.
> Emacs crashes when I load a file (named todobug.org) containing the text between the dashed lines (and not including the dashed lines).  It took some time to get a small version of the file that reliably crashes (at least my) emacs. I could not get a backtrace, because emacs simply crashes.  I am on a windows vista machine.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> MY TASKS -*- mode: org; fill-column: 78; after-save-hook: (archive-done-tasks)   -*-
> #+STARTUP: indent
> #+STARTUP: content
> * Tasks
> #+CATEGORY: Tasks
> ** TODO Buy dead companies! Michael Rabson of wsgr says that valuable patents
> can arise through this process.  Especially since it takes so long for a patent to come through.  The company may be gone, but the patent might be valuable.
>   [2010-05-19 Wed]

I could not duplicate this both with given value for the
after-save-hook and Jan B�cker's suggested modification.

- Windows XP SP2
- GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2010-05-08 on G41R2F1
- Org-mode version 6.36trans (release_6.36.92.g6733) as of Fri May 21
09:26:04 2010 +0200

Regards
-- 
Manish

Re: emacs 23.1 crash on small org file (org-version 6.36)

[David Maus]

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Fritz Kunze wrote:

>I am a novice org-mode user.  I am trying to learn how to use some of the features of org-mode to implement a GTD system. 

>Emacs crashes when I load a file (named todobug.org) containing the text between the dashed lines (and not including the
>dashed lines).  It took some time to get a small version of the file that reliably crashes (at least my) emacs. I could not
>get a backtrace, because emacs simply crashes.  I am on a windows vista machine.

Merely I can't reproduce this neither with 

Org 6.36trans 

GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.2) of
 2009-11-02 on raven, modified by Debian

  -- David

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Re: emacs 23.1 crash on small org file (org-version 6.36)

[Fritz Kunze]

David Maus <dmaus <at> ictsoc.de> writes:

> 
> Fritz Kunze wrote:
> 
> >I am a novice org-mode user.  I am trying to learn how to use some of the 
features of org-mode to implement a
> GTD system. 
> 
> >Emacs crashes when I load a file (named todobug.org) containing the text 
between the dashed lines (and not
> including the
> >dashed lines).  It took some time to get a small version of the file that 
reliably crashes (at least my)
> emacs. I could not
> >get a backtrace, because emacs simply crashes.  I am on a windows vista 
machine.
> 
> Merely I can't reproduce this neither with 
> 
> Org 6.36trans 
> 
> GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.2) of
>  2009-11-02 on raven, modified by Debian
> 
>   -- David
> 

The crashing behavior I reported earlier vanished when I replaced Emacs 23.1 
with the latest version of emacs for windows - version 23.2.  

-Fritz Kunze

Re: Re: emacs 23.1 crash on small org file (org-version 6.36)

[Carsten Dominik]

On May 25, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Fritz Kunze wrote:

> David Maus <dmaus <at> ictsoc.de> writes:
>
>>
>> Fritz Kunze wrote:
>>
>>> I am a novice org-mode user.  I am trying to learn how to use some  
>>> of the
> features of org-mode to implement a
>> GTD system.
>>
>>> Emacs crashes when I load a file (named todobug.org) containing  
>>> the text
> between the dashed lines (and not
>> including the
>>> dashed lines).  It took some time to get a small version of the  
>>> file that
> reliably crashes (at least my)
>> emacs. I could not
>>> get a backtrace, because emacs simply crashes.  I am on a windows  
>>> vista
> machine.
>>
>> Merely I can't reproduce this neither with
>>
>> Org 6.36trans
>>
>> GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.2) of
>> 2009-11-02 on raven, modified by Debian
>>
>>  -- David
>>
>
> The crashing behavior I reported earlier vanished when I replaced  
> Emacs 23.1
> with the latest version of emacs for windows - version 23.2.

Did you use org-indent-mode, or, equivalently

#+STARTUP: indent

??

- Carsten

>
> -Fritz Kunze
>
>
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- Carsten

Re: Re: emacs 23.1 crash on small org file (org-version 6.36)

[Juri Krivov]

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On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Carsten Dominik
<carsten.dominik@gmail.com>wrote:

>
> On May 25, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Fritz Kunze wrote:
>
>  David Maus <dmaus <at> ictsoc.de> writes:
>>
>>
>>> Fritz Kunze wrote:
>>>
>>>  I am a novice org-mode user.  I am trying to learn how to use some of
>>>> the
>>>>
>>> features of org-mode to implement a
>>
>>> GTD system.
>>>
>>>  Emacs crashes when I load a file (named todobug.org) containing the
>>>> text
>>>>
>>> between the dashed lines (and not
>>
>>> including the
>>>
>>>> dashed lines).  It took some time to get a small version of the file
>>>> that
>>>>
>>> reliably crashes (at least my)
>>
>>> emacs. I could not
>>>
>>>> get a backtrace, because emacs simply crashes.  I am on a windows vista
>>>>
>>> machine.
>>
>>>
>>> Merely I can't reproduce this neither with
>>>
>>> Org 6.36trans
>>>
>>> GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.2) of
>>> 2009-11-02 on raven, modified by Debian
>>>
>>>  -- David
>>>
>>>
>> The crashing behavior I reported earlier vanished when I replaced Emacs
>> 23.1
>> with the latest version of emacs for windows - version 23.2.
>>
>
> Did you use org-indent-mode, or, equivalently
>
> #+STARTUP: indent
>
> ??
>
Hello,
I had a similar problem, and I can confirm it goes away when starting to use
Emacs 23.2
Greetings
Juri


>
> - Carsten
>
>
>
>> -Fritz Kunze
>>
>>
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>
> - Carsten
>
>
>
>
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