Re: right customization

[Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>]

On Nov 4, 2010, at 10:54 AM, Andreas Röhler wrote:

> Am 04.11.2010 09:29, schrieb Carsten Dominik:
>>
>> On Nov 4, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Andreas Röhler wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Carsten,
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks. Error was in my way to load the devel version
>>>>>
>>>>> Have been told to follow instructions and load
>>>>>
>>>>> ;; (load "~/org-mode/lisp/org-install.elc")
>>>>
>>>> By who?
>>>>
>>>> the right customization is
>>>>
>>>> (require 'org-install).
>>>
>>> Hi Carsten,
>>>
>>> that surprises me.
>>>
>>> AFAIU
>>>
>>> (require
>>>
>>> only loads a feature, if it's not present already.
>>> As my distributed Emacs comes with an --basically empty--
>>> org-install.el, which provides it (but does nothing in reality, then
>>> sending a "provide"), I'd be afraid its done here.
>>
>> Hi Andreas,
>>
>> also the org-install.el that comes with Emacs is only loded when  
>> you (or
>> some other package) issues a require.
>>
>
> So I'm nearly drowned.
> In my imagination an explicite "load" overwrites the symbols  
> unconditionally,
> while "require" does a check.


This is correct, it does.  However, if you path is not setup  
correctly, things will *still* fail after that.  You were saying that  
this is the recommended way which it is not.  And it is a  
misconception to assume that all files that come with Emacs will  
always be loaded....

- Carsten