Re: right customization

From: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@online.de>
To: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: right customization
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 10:54:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CD282E9.6000600@online.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9BE6BB6E-0B83-4CA5-8FB8-AF4A4724D154@gmail.com>

Am 04.11.2010 09:29, schrieb Carsten Dominik:
>
> On Nov 4, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Andreas Röhler wrote:
>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Carsten,
>>>>
>>>> thanks. Error was in my way to load the devel version
>>>>
>>>> Have been told to follow instructions and load
>>>>
>>>> ;; (load "~/org-mode/lisp/org-install.elc")
>>>
>>> By who?
>>>
>>> the right customization is
>>>
>>> (require 'org-install).
>>
>> Hi Carsten,
>>
>> that surprises me.
>>
>> AFAIU
>>
>> (require
>>
>> only loads a feature, if it's not present already.
>> As my distributed Emacs comes with an --basically empty--
>> org-install.el, which provides it (but does nothing in reality, then
>> sending a "provide"), I'd be afraid its done here.
>
> Hi Andreas,
>
> also the org-install.el that comes with Emacs is only loded when you (or
> some other package) issues a require.
>

So I'm nearly drowned.
In my imagination an explicite "load" overwrites the symbols 
unconditionally,
while "require" does a check.

> If you have set up the load path correctly, so that your own version of
> org is seen before the one coming wiht Emacs, the require will load the
> right one.
>
> I think this is all covered pretty extensively in our tutorials, FAQ etc,
>
> - Carsten
>
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>>
>> ANd, when you are using git, you
>>> need to *make* org-install.el yourself.
>>> *Alternatively, you can also do (require 'org), but this
>>> only works because people apparently do overlook the
>>> org-install part in the installation instructions.
>>>
>>> - Carsten
>>>
>>>>
>>>> However, it works here that way:
>>>>
>>>> (load "~/org-mode/lisp/org.el")
>>>>
>>>> Do you have an idea whats the reason?
>>>>
>>>> Maybe it's useful to drop some note how to load the devel code.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again
>>>>
>>>> Andreas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Go to beginning of sentence, or beginning of table field.
>>>>> This will call `backward-sentence' or `org-table-beginning-of-field',
>>>>> depending on context.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> which doesn't meet info.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See screenshot attached.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Checked from git-repo code
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Andreas
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>>>>>
>>>>> - Carsten
>>>>>
>>>>>
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> - Carsten
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