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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: "Rudolf Adamkovič" <salutis@me.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Case insensitivity of simple [[links]]
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 09:01:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sf6dbmrp.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2pm1skp3n.fsf@me.com>

Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> writes:

>> What about [[Link][link]]?
>
> That makes Org documents hard to read in *plain text*, that is without
> the "descriptive links" fontification.  Here is my note again, compare:
>
> EXAMPLE 1: Hard-to-read, unhelpful markup:
>
>   The set of [[Cellular membrane][cellular membrane]]-bound
>   [[Organelle][organelle]]s inside of the [[Eukaryotic cell][eukaryotic
>   cell]] that work together on the synthesis and distribution of
>   [[Protein][protein]]s and [[Lipid][lipid]]s.
>
> EXAMPLE 2: Lightweight, helpful markup:
>
>   The set of [[cellular membrane]]-bound [[organelle]]s inside of the
>   [[eukaryotic cell]] that work together on the synthesis and
>   distribution of [[protein]]s and [[lipid]]s.

Note that there is generally no guarantee that [[name]] link will be
exported as "name" by any particular backend. Your workaround with
num:nil is just a workaround that may or may not work in future.

>> Judging from your example, I am not sure if it is an actual problem
>> with Org mode. I am still to see a use case when case-insensitivity
>> would be useful. Now, I am inclined to fix the docstring (and possibly
>> the manual), clarifying about case-sensitivity of the internal links.
>
> For me, this is not only "an actual problem with Org" but the biggest
> problem, and the only big problem, I have with Org.
>
> As a markup language, Org is "99% there" in having some of the *most
> practical* plain text [[link]]s available, but then falls short on case
> sensitivity, ending up with the exact opposite.
>
> Now, I could use descriptive links, which hide the [[Wart][wart]] behind
> fontification tricks, but that would not solve my problem.  Why?  I need
> to use other plain text tools, such as Git, with my densely linked Org
> documents.

I can see how this can be helpful in certain scenarios.
I made headline and radio target link matching case-insensitive on main.
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=ed42dc34a
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=ec2399330

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Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-14  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-23  0:45 Case insensitivity of simple [[links]] Rudolf Adamkovič
2023-09-23 10:10 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-24 14:46   ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2023-09-26 10:44     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-27  8:35       ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2023-10-05 13:52         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-06 10:43           ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2023-10-14  9:01             ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-10-16 20:28               ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2023-10-17 10:49                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-19 10:30                   ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2023-10-20  9:41                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-10-21 11:40                       ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2023-10-21 13:23                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-09 12:17                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-20 13:51                       ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2024-08-20 20:10               ` Gregor Zattler
2024-10-19 13:46                 ` Ihor Radchenko

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